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Old 06-02-2015, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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They believe something to be true without evidence to support their belief.

Some people call that faith.

Since Atheists claim to not have faith in anything, that leaves nuts.
You have no idea what an atheist is at all, you just think you do....Below is what most atheists believe

“I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be. ”
― Isaac Asimov
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Old 06-02-2015, 01:55 AM
 
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I figured out I was an atheist when I was about 10-11. But I agree with the rest of what you've said. Seeing the stars, a natural landscape, or even more, the works of man, is an incredible feeling for the potential of the universe and the human mind. I'll even admit, there is a possibility of a creator outside of human understanding. It's not the wonder or possibility of that that I reject, it's the con-job of organized religion. Though I do understand the draw. An organized structure to make people feel better about things they can't understand, particularly some solace in dealing with death and the loss of a loved one, is appealing. I just can't suspend my common sense enough to buy into it.

At 10 or 11, most kids don`t know the Bible prophesy well enough to understand the significance of events in our recent history that are either the fulfillment of that prophesy or incredible coincidences.

A number of sites explain how the rebirth of Israel in 1948 fulfilled prophesy precisely.

Israel's Rebirth in 1948 fortold by Ezekiel

Was it a coincidence?

If you are inclined to disbelieve, then it was, or it is a manipulation of the facts.

If not, then it is hard to accept that events just happened that way or what is clearly spelled out is incorrect.

Regardless of what we know and what we understand, man still believes with his heart and that includes self-described Atheists.
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Old 06-02-2015, 02:12 AM
 
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You have no idea what an atheist is at all, you just think you do....Below is what most atheists believe

“I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be. ”
― Isaac Asimov


Do you reject the Big Bang theory because it couldn`t happened without being caused to happen?
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Old 06-02-2015, 02:34 AM
 
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"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:" -Isaiah 40:22
So the writers of the biblical texts believed the earth was a flat disk with a dome over it.
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Old 06-02-2015, 02:43 AM
 
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So the writers of the biblical texts believed the earth was a flat disk with a dome over it.

A flat disk is a plane.

Sorry...I studied geometry.
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Old 06-02-2015, 02:48 AM
 
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Let's count stars.

Ptolemy counted 1,056. Tycho Brahe counted 777. Johannes Kepler counted 1,005.

"As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me." -Jeremiah 33:22

"That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;" -Genesis 22:17
Is there a point to this?
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Old 06-02-2015, 02:50 AM
 
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That's a relief, I thought this was another global warming thread.
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Old 06-02-2015, 03:05 AM
 
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A flat disk is a plane.

Sorry...I studied geometry.
And?

Is there a point to your post other than to tell us you studied geometry in grade school - like most people?
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Old 06-02-2015, 03:06 AM
 
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Do you reject the Big Bang theory because it couldn`t happened without being caused to happen?
No I neither accept, nor reject the big bang theory...I'm not a cosmologist and am not yet satisfied with the evidence.
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Old 06-02-2015, 03:30 AM
 
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No I neither accept, nor reject the big bang theory...I'm not a cosmologist and am not yet satisfied with the evidence.


Fair enough.

Do you believe that the Universe exist?

If so, has it always existed in some form or not?
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