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Some people can only feel better about themselves if they have someone else whom they can preach against.
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden
Please, God, may all the Hatemongers and Endtimers sell all their possessions and sit on the beach waiting for the coming of whatever god they want to punish everyone but themselves.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to spread the Good News that it doesn't matter when the world will end, it only matters to serve Christ by living for others TODAY, especially the LGBTQ community despised by those who proclaim disaster coming from the Prince of Peace.
I've previously posted for you, specifically, John MacArthur's (MacArthur is your fellow biblical bigot) message that Jude is all about angels having sex with humans. Got those blinders on again when your own "kind" take a different view? How is human flesh "strange?" Please come back with "not natural" so I can again post half dozen videos of lions, horses, cattle, monkeys, and other animals all engaged in homosexual acts. Your god goofed by bringing it into the world and keeping it going. Every single homosexual of every species was born to a heterosexual liaison.
Just take the new world order with a grain of salt. You cannot refuse to bake a cake for a gay person if you are a baker, and you can't tell anyone else who they can marry or not marry.
Please, God, may all the Hatemongers and Endtimers sell all their possessions and sit on the beach waiting for the coming of whatever god they want to punish everyone but themselves.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to spread the Good News that it doesn't matter when the world will end, it only matters to serve Christ by living for others TODAY, especially the LGBTQ community despised by those who proclaim disaster coming from the Prince of Peace.
You still haven't shown me a verse that specifically says it was with angels. "Strange flesh" can be translated as "unnatural lust". It means "different". That's a huge leap to claim that it is quite clear that the difference is absolutely angels.
I don't know why you bring up the animal argument unless you believe human beings are nothing more than another species of animals. Hey, maybe you do believe that. I struggle to find anything in the Bible that aligns with your beliefs.
Most major Christian denominations oppose homosexuality. This was a vote against the will of the people in favor of a small minority of the population. And America is not progressing. Our country is more divided and in more turmoil than any period I've seen in my lifetime. American pride is flushed down the toliet. We are not number one in any category anymore either. God doesn't bless a country that thumbs its nose at Him.
As of last month, 60% of the American people believe that gay marriages should have the exact same legal protections as traditional marriage, so your "will of the people" argument just went up in a cloud of smoke.
But even if that were not the case, it wouldn't matter, because it is absolutely not the role of the Supreme Court to protect the will of the people - in fact, quite the opposite. Their sole responsibility is to protect the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, regardless of public whims and prejudices. Which is exactly what they did. So, you're 0 for 2 so far.
As for your ramblings about America not being #1 in the world anymore, and god not blessing countries that thumb their noses at him - well, then who is "#1?" Because if it's not the United States, whoever it is will almost certainly be even less Christian that we are. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Germany, in fact almost all of the European countries are all less Christian than we are. So if we're not "#1" anymore because god is smiling on someone else, why is he smiling on countries that are even less Christian than the United States? Or are you going to claim that Mexico and Guatemala are #1?
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
Most major Christian denominations oppose homosexuality. This was a vote against the will of the people in favor of a small minority of the population. And America is not progressing. Our country is more divided and in more turmoil than any period I've seen in my lifetime. American pride is flushed down the toliet. We are not number one in any category anymore either. God doesn't bless a country that thumbs its nose at Him.
Phffft. Canada is much more secular than the USA, and in almost any measure that you want to look at, is doing better. We had gay marriage 10 years ago. Our society didn't fall apart.
Far sillier is postulating a make believe creator of the universe who cares very deeply about the marital practices of the creatures on this planet.
Aw, come on. We all know that the God who created this vast universe is totally obsessed with regulating the bedroom activities of insignificant creatures that live briefly on a microscopic speck we call earth.
What else do we expect God to do with all his free time?
The problem is by the time you exclude the heterosexual fornicators, adulterers, swingers, polys, porn addicts, divorcees, women who dress "provocatively", and people who use birth control you wind up with a very, very small and boring parade...
As of last month, 60% of the American people believe that gay marriages should have the exact same legal protections as traditional marriage, so your "will of the people" argument just went up in a cloud of smoke.
And when I presented proof that at least one of these major studies was fabricating data in favor of homosexuals, it was completely ignored. Sorry if I don't put much faith into these polls. Besides unless you polled every single American in this country, you can't claim as fact that 60% now approve. And if you are right then it only proves the slippery slope argument since just a few years ago, the vast majority believed marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman. Defense of Marriage Act ring a bell? Oh guess who signed it into law? Bill Clinton!
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Originally Posted by Albert_The_Crocodile
But even if that were not the case, it wouldn't matter, because it is absolutely not the role of the Supreme Court to protect the will of the people - in fact, quite the opposite. Their sole responsibility is to protect the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, regardless of public whims and prejudices. Which is exactly what they did. So, you're 0 for 2 so far.
Well the gay community certainly has no problem using the legal system to promote their will which is the forcing of society to accept homosexuality or face consequences.
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Originally Posted by Albert_The_Crocodile
As for your ramblings about America not being #1 in the world anymore, and god not blessing countries that thumb their noses at him - well, then who is "#1?" Because if it's not the United States, whoever it is will almost certainly be even less Christian that we are. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Germany, in fact almost all of the European countries are all less Christian than we are. So if we're not "#1" anymore because god is smiling on someone else, why is he smiling on countries that are even less Christian than the United States? Or are you going to claim that Mexico and Guatemala are #1?
I'd rate your entire post a 100% fail. Sorry.
And I never contributed positive aspects of a society as always being a direct result of God's blessing. There is simply a correlation between the decline of religion in America with the decline of American positive attributes that is hard to write off as mere coincidence. We have now raised a generation of young people who are more dillusioned, selfish, angry, and violent coupled with a hyper sensitivity over the most minor offensives. Yeah that's some progress. We have progressed so far in the wrong direction that when there is a simple act of kindness like the batkid story, we gotta make a documentary about it because it's so extra-ordinary!
And my second thought is why oh why is it that those who believe in GOD and believe that he is a big man in the sky in a toga with bad hair days and all are so convinced that he needs help implementing his "law"? If GOD really is so omnipotent, he will take care of it.
For Jews, eating pork is against their religion. I have yet to hear of Jews working to have pork outlawed. If you Nicene Christians believe that homosexuality is against your religion, just say "it's against my religion" and move on. You will not be forced to marry someone of the same sex and you don't have to like it, just shrug and move on.
Jesus hated divorce, after all, and that is legal in all 50 states. What's the difference?
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