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Old 12-17-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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To be fair he also gets offended by Christians who don't believe in the Bible in the correct way.
True. So offended that, in Jeffyland, we enter the tunnel as Christians and emerge as atheists. It's an E-ticket ride.
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Old 12-18-2015, 05:40 AM
 
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Really, so I guess you consider the following to NOT be persecution:
Did any of these things actually happen, or were it just something you saw on Fox News?

And let's be honest, none of these were what you are complaining about in this thread. Here, you feel the whole of American Christendom is being persecuted because someone put up a billboard that hurt your feelings.
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Really, so I guess you consider the following to NOT be persecution:


1. American Christians being told to confirm their faith before being slaughtered in a mass shooting.

2. A woman going to jail because she didn't want to violate her Christian morals regarding gay marriage.

3. Christian business owner given enormous overblown fines for refusing to engage in an immoral celebration.

4. Local government meddling in the affairs of Christian churches even to the point of demanding that pastors turn over their sermons for approval.

5. Christian ministries being forced to pay for abortion pills.


6. The essential stripping away of religion and faith from ALL avenues of public life like recent demand to give school chaplains the boot off of universities.


7. People losing their jobs directly as a result of sharing their faith.

Gee, what's it going to take before you acknowledge persecution? Christians being whipped in the streets? By that time, we will have our voices silenced so you won't have to apologize for that day you claimed we were just "pretending".
1. That would be called DEATH for standing up for what you believe. Being murdered by a RIGHT-wing fundie looking to send believers to god before they sin again is not PERSECUTION, it is a TRAGEDY...
PERSECUTION is Innocent people being MURDERED in a reproductive health care clinic by a biblical sharia law enforcer.

2. She VIOLATED the LAW, even Paulie Girl wrote ALL LAWS / GOVERNMENT exist per GOD.

3. THE business owner was NOT INVITED to participate.

4. WHERE??? RUSSIA?? Gotta provide the link for this propaganda.

5. NO, that is part of the insurance coverage and the premium is NOT LOWER if the provider opts out. IT DOES NOT COST EXTRA. As the case of HOBBY LOBBY when it was offered THIRD PARTY without cost, HOBBY LOBBY still fought against FREE ACCESS to reproductive health care.

6. UNIVERSITIES are PUBLIC PROPERTY, religion has no RIGHTS or EXPECTATIONS to be allowed on GOVERNMENT funded property.

7. AGAIN, must have links (NOT FAUX NEWS) to support lunacy claims...

What is PERSECUTION is the church forcing the masses to abide by BIBLICAL SHARIA law for reproductive health choices, EQUALITY, and when a business can or cannot open..

PERSECUTION is forcing others to acknowledge that the god-in-a-tiny-box is the ONLY god and that discrimination against ALL OTHER RELIGIONS is not only ACCEPTABLE, but LEGISLATED...
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:42 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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4. Local government meddling in the affairs of Christian churches even to the point of demanding that pastors turn over their sermons for approval.
even though you know perfectly well they are not true.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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You continue to add these words:



even though you know perfectly well they are not true.

There was one case in Texas where the local government asked for copies of the sermons. It was not about the religion they were teaching but the thought that those churches were using the pulpit to instruct members how to to vote on either an election or referendum. So it was is this church violating the terms of the tax free status to do political work. I think the courts ruled against the city on that case.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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There was one case in Texas where the local government asked for copies of the sermons. It was not about the religion they were teaching but the thought that those churches were using the pulpit to instruct members how to to vote on either an election or referendum. So it was is this church violating the terms of the tax free status to do political work. I think the courts ruled against the city on that case.
Yes, but the local government was not asking to see the sermons for approval.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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The fact that this thread has gone on for 59 pages demonstrates that atheists have a bone to pick with religion and they DON'T want to just be left alone.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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The fact that this thread has gone on for 59 pages demonstrates that atheists have a bone to pick with religion and they DON'T want to just be left alone.

Why? Because they make retorts to theists who insist that they know the thoughts and hidden desires of all other people and have to tell them how to live?


Just leave us alone and see how fast his thread dies.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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Why? Because they make retorts to theists who insist that they know the thoughts and hidden desires of all other people and have to tell them how to live?


Just leave us alone and see how fat this thread dies.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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The fact that this thread has gone on for 59 pages demonstrates that atheists have a bone to pick with religion and they DON'T want to just be left alone.
Why would ANYONE think that the members of any classification all want the same thing?
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