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Spectacularly fallacious reasoning and one of the key examples of how religious teachings can be harmful, as they allow this type of incoherent reasoning. All because they value faith....the willful ignoring of evidence in favor of a more appealing narrative....over inquiry and critical thinking.
The only thing that matters is to otherize people you reject into a group of people you can rationalise also deserve the punishment of your god. That's much easier than untangling the cognitive dissonance of how people who claim to be moral, do immoral things.
If that's what it takes to get you protect your kids then go for it. Being an atheist, I prefer the term predator for the behavior you are describing. Just because someone says the represent God doesn't mean they do. Just because someone says they are repentant after abusing a child doesn't mean they are. people seem to understand that when it is outside of their group but are blind to it inside the group. There is some fascinating research behind this.
The concept of “willful blindness,” Heffernan explains, comes from the law and originates from legislature passed in the 19th century — it’s the somewhat counterintuitive idea that you’re responsible “if you could have known, and should have known, something that instead you strove not to see.” What’s most uneasy-making about the concept is the implication that it doesn’t matter whether the avoidance of truth is conscious. This basic mechanism of keeping ourselves in the dark, Heffernan argues, plays out in just about every aspect of life, but there are things we can do — as individuals, organizations, and nations — to lift our blinders before we walk into perilous situations that later produce the inevitable exclamation: How could I have been so blind?
If this were true, why do so many churches and church "leaders" come to the support of those n positions of power and status accused and / or convicted?
The entire church (at least 80% must also be atheists??)
At least you are willing to classify the DUGGARS as atheists...I will agree with this--actually they aren't even atheists--those who claim RELIGION and prey on others, whether it be sexually or financially--are just simply EVIL. Most atheists I know are good HUMANS and respect their neighbors and enjoy BBQ and picnics in the summer..
By that logic anyone who commits a sin is really an atheist.
Have you ever lied? You're an atheist.
Have you ever disrespected your parents? You're an atheist.
Have you ever envied your neighbors car? You're an atheist.
Stolen something, worked on a Sunday, or blasphemed? Atheist!!!
Whether Atheists or Believers, we know that no religion tells it's followers to prey on kids - and no religion tells it's followers to take the life of innocent people; however, we see that we have some Church Pastors out there that are convicted of Pedophilia, and we see that some "supposedly followers and representers of Islam" have brutally taken the life of innocent people.
So here is the logic - A pastor who believes in God and he believes in God's word in the Bible, then he is very less likely to prey on kids BECAUSE he is a true believer in God. YET we see that some Pastors have preyed on kids. Why?
There is only and only one logical explanation - This pedophile pastor is NOT an actual believer in God - He has NO Faith in God - He has NO faith in God's word - He has NO concern of God's Justice - he has no regard and respect of God - he does NOT believe in God - WHICH MAKES HIM a 100% Atheist deep in his heart - no matter how big of Pastor he is - he is an Atheist in my opinion.
Same goes with terrorists - A "Muslim" who believes in God and his word and his justice, then he is very less likely to take the lives of innocent people. YET we see that some supposedly self proclaimed Muslims have taken the lives of thousands of innocent people, including women and kids. Why? Because you think they misinterpret Quranic verses?
No sir, Quranic versus have been interpreted in thorough detail by many, many certified scholars of Islam 100's of years ago - and NONE of the interpretations tell the followers of Islam to start blowing themselves up in Public and/or take the life of innocent people to earn 70 virgins in heaven.
The moral and ethical guide for daily living in the light of Quran has been documented 100's of years ago by many Islamic scholars. And Muslims only need to follow it.
There is absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel - and whoever this, and he wrongly interprets Quranic versus to push his own personal agenda of killing innocent people, then he has absolutely no faith in God.
So there is ONLY and ONLY one possibility - this supposedly self proclaimed Muslim is not a believer in God - He has NO faith in God - He has no believe in God's word in Quran, He has NO concern of God's justice - he does NOT believe in God - WHICH MAKES HIM a 100% Atheist deep in his heart - no matter how long of a beard he has, and no matter how loudly he can shout "Allah Akbar". He is an Atheist, IMO.
Now, does that mean ALL Atheists are rapist and terrorists and criminals ? Absolutely not! But those who CLAIM to believe in God but go AGAINST God by killing the innocent and raping, are actually not the true believers of God.
What about all the killing for which your evil god is responsible if it exists?
What about all the killing for which your evil god is responsible if it exists?
Why, we all know this is the result of a LOVING GOD showing us how much she loves us by killing others to demonstrate what she will do to us if we no not love her..
Why stop at the murder and rape? Why not say every person who doesn't follow every single rule of every religion is an atheist? So pretty much everyone is an atheist.
Worst load of BS logic I have seen in this forum to date. This makes some of the repeated fallacies Christians bring up about evolution or the infallibility of the bible look insightful.
OP, you need to develop an understanding of the foundations of morality.
Spectacularly fallacious reasoning and one of the key examples of how religious teachings can be harmful, as they allow this type of incoherent reasoning. All because they value faith....the willful ignoring of evidence in favor of a more appealing narrative....over inquiry and critical thinking.
The only thing that matters is to otherize people you reject into a group of people you can rationalise also deserve the punishment of your god. That's much easier than untangling the cognitive dissonance of how people who claim to be moral, do immoral things.
Why stop at the murder and rape? Why not say every person who doesn't follow every single rule of every religion is an atheist? So pretty much everyone is an atheist.
Yes. I mean how does this tie in with a sin is a sin in God's eyes, even if you commit the tiniest sin you aren't pure enough to ultimately be with God and that is why everyone absolutely requires Christ, from God's perspective rape of children is no worse than stealing, etc.? I mean doesn't the entire religion hinge on EVERYONE being sinners (hence requiring Christ) even if they're trying to do good, even if they're sincere, even if their sins are tiny in our eyes, etc.? Hmmm.
If none of that is true and child rape and murder are more heinous than other crimes acording to God and just these specifically mean a person is an atheist, has this game changer been written into the bible yet?
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