All pedophile Pastors and All terrorists are 100% Atheists. (Buddhist, America, agnostic)

[Joe90]

I think this is an attempt at humour by the OP, because as have others said, all wrongdoing that goes against the religion's belief, could be considered an act of an atheist.

Well done OP, although it's the 1st of May today, not the 1st of April

[mordant]

[Sigh] no, I think he's dead serious. I already addressed this ridiculous "logic" here before I realized he had turned it into its own thread.

This circular reasoning is very common however, and by no means exclusive to Islam. Christians do the same thing. Not just to people who violate positions of leadership trust, but to people who leave the faith or embarrass it in some nettlesome way.

It is the No True Scotsman fallacy. It is in fact even easier for Christians to engage in because it is explicitly taught and advocated in scripture. I don't pretend to know if the Quran has equivalent fallacies it is promoting, but it appears to be an appealing fallacy whether or not it has the approval of their holy book.

[Joe90]

Yes, it's actually quite a revealing post by the OP. First step in a witch hunt -scary stuff.

[Unsettomati]

Originally Posted by Joe90

I think this is an attempt at humour by the OP, because as have others said, all wrongdoing that goes against the religion's belief, could be considered an act of an atheist.

Well done OP, although it's the 1st of May today, not the 1st of April

If you were familiar with the OP, you'd know that he is completely serious. This is what passes for 'logic' in his circles.

That's the thing about those who have accepted completely that which is fundamentally illogical - they embrace ideas that are so far beyond the pale that it's difficult to believe they're serious. This is also why it's so hard to parody them. They post things that would make a great headline in The Onion - except they mean every word.

[cupper3]

Originally Posted by GoCardinals

No, simple solution would be, to accept that Religion does NOT tell it's followers to rape and kill. So if a supposedly "Religious man" rapes or kills, do NOT associate his actions rooting to his religious faith. What you need to admit is that, his religion and his faith are in contradiction to his evil actions.

Actually, there are scriptures that tell you how to beat your slave, how to stone a virgin whose screams can't be heard, how to commit genocide, how to properly abuse your child, how to give your virgin daughters up for rape to a mob, how you can rape and get away with it by paying the father off, how to mistreat your wife, how to kill all of a neighboring tribe, including the babies, but keep virgins for your own use, commit cannibalism, cruelty to animals and that is just a start.

I wonder where one would find such scriptures?

[Freak80]

This is the silliest thread topic I have seen in a long time.

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by Freak80

This is the silliest thread topic I have seen in a long time.

Makes the popcorn taste better!

[303Guy]

Extremist terrorists kill, rape and destroy in the name of their God. They believe so strongly that it's their god's commanding that commit the worst crimes possible and think they will be rewarded for it in the afterlife or something.

That doesn't quite qualify them as being atheist.

ATHEIST - one who has no belief in a deity/god.

[Amaznjohn]

I guess that makes Abraham an atheist as well.

[southwest88]

The measure of belief or unbelief of the perpetrator is unnecessary. You can judge these issues very simply: Anyone who assaults/rapes/murders children will - in the long run - hurt humanity as a whole, & even his/her immediate social circle/kinship - where the victims will likely come from. Therefore - as action not conducive to furthering his society/family/whatever the unit is - that behavior is evil.


The same can be said for terrorism - although terrorism as we define it is relatively recent - since gunpowder became generally available, to make dynamite, explosives, easily portable firearms & etc. Terrorism before then would have relied on thuggees & similar - bands of people devoted to violence/killing/intimidation for political ends.


Again, the motivation - religious or not - is not the point. Both sets of activities arrogate the power of life & death to either egomaniacs or monomaniacs, or people with no affect or positive feelings for their fellow man. If we can't manage to persuade them of the error of their ways, we need to either isolate them somewhere where they can't harm civilized people, or perhaps pop them into suspended animation (in hopes that they can be treated in the future. & I know, we don't have that technology yet. I'm just putting down a marker, for when the time comes.)


Failing all that, & if we can't manage to preserve them against a day when they're treatable, I suppose that we can execute criminals. It seems a waste to me, but there it is. & again, their professed faith or lack of same hardly seems to me to be the point. @ that point, we'd be condemning their criminal actions, not judging their state of grace or lack of same.