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Old 05-18-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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The living God already paid for all of everyone's sins, but this world says that we need to do something. Either to be saved or for rewards OR they claim that there is no God and that we make things whatever we want.
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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The living God already paid for all of everyone's sins, but this world says that we need to do something. Either to be saved or for rewards OR they claim that there is no God and that we make things whatever we want.
I'm not sure what your point is.
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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The living God already paid for all of everyone's sins, but this world says that we need to do something. Either to be saved or for rewards OR they claim that there is no God and that we make things whatever we want.

Yes, all mankind's sins have been died for. Christ bore them all away. Religion says you must do such and such. True Christianity says "Done!"
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Yes, all mankind's sins have been died for. Christ bore them all away. Religion says you must do such and such. True Christianity says "Done!"
So then I can do as I like and not bother to go to church on Sundays for forgiveness?

So sex before marriage is actually OK? That also means that homosexuality is OK!
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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The living God already paid for all of everyone's sins, but this world says that we need to do something. Either to be saved or for rewards OR they claim that there is no God and that we make things whatever we want.
That's the conservative Protestant mantra.

Many other Christian groups (like Catholics and liberal Protestants) disagree.
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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Yes, all mankind's sins have been died for. Christ bore them all away. Religion says you must do such and such. True Christianity says "Done!"
Fortunately, this is true for ONLY a TRUE believer. One, who's faith can move mountains.
Rest assured, none of them here.
I think, this also answers Q from another poster about having sex and homosexuality.
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Old 05-18-2016, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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The living God already paid for all of everyone's sins, but this world says that we need to do something. Either to be saved or for rewards OR they claim that there is no God and that we make things whatever we want.
To which deity are you referring? Every theist on the planet believes that their god is living because you inherently can't worship / obey / praise something that's dead.

I am guessing you are referring to the protestant evangelical version of god, in which case this thread probably belongs in the Christianity forum rather than here in R&S. Although lacking as it does either a question or topic of discussion and just being something you blurted out with no context at all, I'm not sure how much value it even has there.
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Old 05-18-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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The living God already paid for all of everyone's sins, but this world says that we need to do something. Either to be saved or for rewards OR they claim that there is no God and that we make things whatever we want.
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*Two sentences - not much effort.
*Trite, unimaginative this-or-that assertion.

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Old 05-18-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Yes, all mankind's sins have been died for. Christ bore them all away. Religion says you must do such and such. True Christianity says "Done!"
You could put it like that. The problem is, a lot of people think Christianity is something that's basically polar opposite to what the living Jesus actually is.

They think you're saying you 'DO' (and they think we're being self-righteous and looking down on them), but infact we're saying it's 'DONE'.
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Old 05-18-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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So then I can do as I like and not bother to go to church on Sundays for forgiveness?

So sex before marriage is actually OK? That also means that homosexuality is OK!
There is a world system in place that keeps order and allows for more humans to be born and have a chance to come to know Jesus, but we have already been made right with God, we just have to receive it, by belief on Jesus, which is to know God.

The Church is Jesus, Himself, not a building, not a world organization. When a man goes into a woman, on a spiritual level, he just took her as wife (in functional truth). Homosexuality is a bad idea. There are however humans with intersex conditions who often associate as a homosexual, but it's not exactly accurate. But if you know Jesus, you know that you've already been saved by Him and that everything that's anything is already complete in Him. He is our salvation, sanctification, baptism, redemption, Church, etc.
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