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Old 06-09-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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So now you must resort to demonizing and deprecating people you know nothing of because that is really your only argument left? Very intellectually weak , not to mention dishonest .


Suppose a 1st Baptist or 1st Methodist or other "1st" church realizes it's situation, that of being a church most likely largely white and whose members drive in to the inner older part of town from the outlying middle and upper class neighborhoods . They want to reach more to the people around them . One easy way is through ministries to kids, whether it be VBS, or youth things for older kids, or homework and after school type activities . If one of these churches engages in this , you are critical of them because they are , in your opinion, simply being condescending and graciously allowing the poor kids the opportunity to play with their white children, or they have some nefarious reason for reaching out to poor kids .

On the other hand, if the discussion were to be about churches that DONT reach out to the neighborhoods around them, and who don't make efforts to minister to the local neighborhood children and youth, and who publicly acknowledged they didn't feel the need to connect with and minister to the people around the church, most religious critics , likely I'll bet including you,would decry and criticize the racist and elitist white people who couldn't be bothered to actually mingle with the people right around their holy place of worship.

So for fanatics like you, they can do no right . You will find a way to criticize any action they take , or don't take, depending on what provides you with the opportunity to attack them .
I am demonizing ministries who draw in children with an agenda.

I will demonize any sanctimonious agenda allegedly helping poor children by permitting them to mix with middle class kids, and claim some sort of benefit. How white of you to do that for poor black children.

Racist and elitist white people, as you call them, should be demonized. They think it is something wonderful bringing poor black children to mix with their middle class kids.

Goody, goody, we are going to see the white kids today.
Some white lady is going to let me mix with her kids. Lucky me.
I get to go to a white church with white people today.
I am going to mingle with the white kids today. How luck am I?

I think it is very dishonest of you. You sure do make yourself feel better about those poor black kids.

Again. So glad someone stopped your Ministry. Someone was thinking.

As a life long children's advocate, I am a fanatic about their welfare. Sometimes they need protection from sanctimonious Church Ladies who allow them to mix with their children, and think is is special for poor children.
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Old 06-09-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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I am demonizing ministries who draw in children with an agenda.

I will demonize any sanctimonious agenda allegedly helping poor children by permitting them to mix with middle class kids, and claim some sort of benefit. How white of you to do that for poor black children.

Racist and elitist white people, as you call them, should be demonized. They think it is something wonderful bringing poor black children to mix with their middle class kids.

Goody, goody, we are going to see the white kids today.
Some white lady is going to let me mix with her kids. Lucky me.
I get to go to a white church with white people today.
I am going to mingle with the white kids today. How luck am I?

I think it is very dishonest of you. You sure do make yourself feel better about those poor black kids.

Again. So glad someone stopped your Ministry. Someone was thinking.

As a life long children's advocate, I am a fanatic about their welfare. Sometimes they need protection from sanctimonious Church Ladies who allow them to mix with their children, and think is is special for poor children.


Your post here is a load of crap . You have no clue about the intentions or mindset of those wanting to help others, yet you pretend to some sort of mind reading knowledge of them .

The fact that all you can do is assume bad intentions without any proof shows the intellectual wasteland of both your mind and moral compass .

You are desperate in your hatred, because you have no logical reasoning behind your stance . You cannot prove what you claim , but you rant anyway because you have nothing else .
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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Your post here is a load of crap . You have no clue about the intentions or mindset of those wanting to help others, yet you pretend to some sort of mind reading knowledge of them .

The fact that all you can do is assume bad intentions without any proof shows the intellectual wasteland of both your mind and moral compass .

You are desperate in your hatred, because you have no logical draining behind your stance . You cannot prove what you claim , but you rant anyway because you have nothing else .
Sanctimonious Church Lady nonsense. Very white of you. Those middle class white children must be bereft they cannot mingle and mix with those black kids.
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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Sanctimonious Church Lady nonsense. Very white of you. Those middle class white children must be bereft they cannot mingle and mix with those black kids.


Since I don't attend church or profess any belief, do you have any clue what you are talking about ?

The fact that you , in this instance , find reaching out to neighborhood kids as wrong and nefarious is one of the more dishonest claims I have ever seen here . As I said, I have no doubt that if this same church made a point of NOT interacting with the neighborhood you would find that equally evil and elitist.

So you bittch either way. You are nothing but a hater that will find something to hate about, regardless of which way the church chose to interact with its neighbors .

As such , your views are irrelevant because of the illogic of your rantings .

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Old 06-09-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Since I don't attend church or profess any belief, do you have any clue what you are talking about ?

The fact that you , in this instance , find reaching out to neighborhood kids as wrong and nefarious is one of the more dishonest claims I have ever seen here . As I said, I have no doubt that if this same church made a point of NOT interacting with the neighborhood you would find that equally evil and elitist.

So you bittch either way. You are nothing but a hater that will find something to hate about, regardless of which way the church chose to interact with its neighbors .

As such , your views are irrelevant because of the illogic of your rantings .
Okay Church Lady. Your special sanctimony is noted. Your whiteness is noted, too.

Again, your sanctimony was prevented to the betterment of all. Moderator cut: deleted

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Old 06-09-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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Okay Church Lady. Your special sanctimony is noted. Your whiteness is noted, too.

Again, your sanctimony was prevented to the betterment of all. pmod]Orphaned[/mod]


Continue to call me church lady all you wish . It serves to highlight your ignorance of my stance, which you could easily glean for yourself had you the honesty to read and understand rather than rant and hate .

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Old 06-09-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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God wants roads & bridges not food stamps!!! You both sound absurd.


Keep your silly religious notions out of government. We'll all be the better for it.
Your reading comprehension or understanding is poor, that is not what was stated in previous or this current post
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Continue to call me church lady all you wish . It serves to highlight your ignorance of my stance, which you could easily glean for yourself had you the honesty to read and understand rather than rant and hate .
That is so special, Church Lady, and your stance is f.o.s.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Really, tell me how is a police officer displaying an image of the cross on his vehicle infringing on people's rights?
Same could be said of the swastika.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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Same could be said of the swastika.
Or a bumper sticker of a burning cross
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