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Old 06-08-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Well now, this is interesting, but not surprising to me at all. This graph clearly shows that God's people are the most charitable in America. You go up north where religion and faith are shrinking, and the giving is near 0%.


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Utah is the most charitable state, according to The Chronicle of Philanthropy, and the next five most giving states are grouped in the Bible Belt: Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and South Carolina, respectively.


The 20 most giving cities in America, and their less charitable compatriots | Deseret News


Even more noteworthy, the Southern states typically have much lower levels of personal income and poverty problems versus their stingy northern counterparts. For those who champion the decline of religion and faith as a good thing for society then I wonder how charitable our country will be in the next generation. Close to zero according to this data.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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Well now, this is interesting, but not surprising to me at all. This graph clearly shows that God's people are the most charitable in America. You go up north where religion and faith are shrinking, and the giving is near 0%.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjtjFkEUkAEjLOf.jpg:large





The 20 most giving cities in America, and their less charitable compatriots | Deseret News


Even more noteworthy, the Southern states typically have much lower levels of personal income and poverty problems versus their stingy northern counterparts. For those who champion the decline of religion and faith as a good thing for society then I wonder how charitable our country will be in the next generation. Close to zero according to this data.
Because that's the highest concentration of churches, and churches are considered charity organizations for some reason.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:19 AM
 
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Thats why gays, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, and members of non-Christian religions are flocking to the South to experience this amazing southern Christian hospitality.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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Thats why gays, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, and members of non-Christian religions are flocking to the South to experience this amazing southern Christian hospitality.
What does charitable giving have to do with people being comfortable in their favorite sin?
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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Well now, this is interesting, but not surprising to me at all. This graph clearly shows that God's people are the most charitable in America. You go up north where religion and faith are shrinking, and the giving is near 0%.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjtjFkEUkAEjLOf.jpg:large





The 20 most giving cities in America, and their less charitable compatriots | Deseret News


Even more noteworthy, the Southern states typically have much lower levels of personal income and poverty problems versus their stingy northern counterparts. For those who champion the decline of religion and faith as a good thing for society then I wonder how charitable our country will be in the next generation. Close to zero according to this data.
This has been brought up and addressed before , and I'm pretty sure you participated in the discussion . Giving to churches , many of which don't actually do real charity work , is counted as a charitable contribution anyway . The money given to folks like Osteen that even Vizio admits is bogus religious huckstering gets counted officially as charity. Even in the reputable churches most of the money stays in house to provide services for the church members, so it's truly more of a membership dues thing than charitable giving .


And I suppose you will bring this up again in two months even though it has , once again, been refuted here .
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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What does charitable giving have to do with people being comfortable in their favorite sin?
I don't understand what you are asking.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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Charitable giving is always a good thing, not a contest. Charitable giving is not always tax deductible.

Filling up the tank of a stranger.
Buying diapers for a baby.
Giving a stranger some money for shelter.
Making sure the lady next door has a ride to the Dr.
Putting food on the table for a family in need.
Sharing your holiday table.
Helping someone out of a financial jam.

So many things we do not keep track of, but simply reach into our pockets and do.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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Well by Jeff's logic, if Utah leads the way in giving, Mormons are more generous than evangelical Christians.

I'm not sure what the definition of "charity" is but I'm guessing it includes tithing to churches and the like which is in my view a whole lot less focused and effective than many other possible recipients. So as a measure of good done in the world, this by itself doesn't really persuade me.
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Old 06-08-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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Well now, this is interesting, but not surprising to me at all. This graph clearly shows that God's people are the most charitable in America. You go up north where religion and faith are shrinking, and the giving is near 0%.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjtjFkEUkAEjLOf.jpg:large





The 20 most giving cities in America, and their less charitable compatriots | Deseret News


Even more noteworthy, the Southern states typically have much lower levels of personal income and poverty problems versus their stingy northern counterparts. For those who champion the decline of religion and faith as a good thing for society then I wonder how charitable our country will be in the next generation. Close to zero according to this data.
How very Christian of you, turning charity into a contest...

Question about your map though, does that include giving money to churches, which are often considered charitable organizations? Because I think in order to actually get a feel for where charity is most common, you'd have to take out things like churches. While many churches do actually have charitable causes, some don't yet according to the government, they're both non-profit charities. At the very least, you should take out church members giving to their own church for this graph, since that's giving into a system that also benefits them which isn't as charitable as giving to a homeless shelter. Indeed, I'd say a homeless man giving some money to a homeless shelter shouldn't count either.

Also, charity also comes in the form of volunteering, which neither of your links addresses.
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Old 06-08-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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I don't understand what you are asking.
You brought up the idea that some people aren't comfortable in places with a lot of Christians because they practiced certain behaviors. I wanted to know how your comment was relevant to the OP.
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