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Old 06-10-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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So I've been absolutely fascinated about this subject for a long time and have been trying to find an answer to this mystery. I've though long and hard about this theory. Here it goes....

When people are dying, a lot of them say they see a very bright tunnel of light, but before anyone ever goes through it, they end up coming back to life. I've always found this fascinating. Just what is this tunnel of light? Where does it lead?

I've then stumbled on a scientific article that came out a little over a month ago and it states that a bright flash of light marks the very moment life begins when sperm meets the egg. Here is the article.

Bright flash of light marks incredible moment life begins when sperm meets egg

And here is another article from a scientist that suggests that when you die, time simply reboots. Here is the link.

What Happens When You Die? Evidence Suggests Time Simply Reboots

So I'm thinking the light at the end of the tunnel during death and the light at the very moment life begins are connected.

Now for how I think it all plays out:

1.) You die (not clinically dead, permanently dead)
2.) You go into the bright tunnel of light which is actually a warp back to your very beginning
3.) You go back in time to the very moment you were conceived
4.) You are alive again
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I'm beginning to believe that our lives are a never ending loop. We live as the same person over and over until we get something right. I've heard theories about the light at the end of the tunnel being rebirth as in coming out of the birth canal and the light is hospital lights, but a lot of people say they were born in the dark with no lights around.

My theory on the flash of light during conception makes more sense, because when you are conceived, your mother has free will on how she will proceed. By that, I mean perhaps she will choose to get an abortion, start/stop drinking, pickup smoking etc. etc.

It's the same way when a mother is seriously thinking about whether she should get an abortion or have the baby. Here's an example of what I'm trying to say: Woman thinks long and hard about having the child or getting an abortion. After a long time contemplating, she decides to abort. That life dies and goes through the bright tunnel and is conceived again. This time around the woman could be thinking long and hard, but instead of getting an abortion, she decides to keep the child.

This is free will. I believe dying and going all the way back to the moment of conception gives the woman having the child a choice to how she should proceed. Ex: abortion/don't smoke/eat healthy. etc etc.

I believe that going back all the way to the moment of conception makes more sense because think about this. When you go out in public, you see mentally slow/retarded/down syndrome/physically challenged people at times and when they die, going back to the moment of conception, they could be reborn as a perfectly healthy person by how the mother takes care of herself and the baby. Same with a perfectly healthy person. they could be mentally/physically handicapped in their next life around. That is reality.

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This is also interesting. If this is true, lets say you are the oldest of three siblings. You die and come back, but you most likely will never see your younger siblings ever again. Your parents could decide one is enough or they could could have two more siblings just like in your past life, but they wont be the same as in the previous life. You wouldn't know either way. You would just know that they are your siblings.

Now lets say you are the youngest of three siblings. You die and when you come back, your siblings are exactly the same as when you died, because time for you only went back to when you were conceived and your siblings were already alive.

So I am the oldest out of my siblings, but when I die, I will most likely never see them again, but when my youngest sister dies, she will always see me and her older siblings again.

Everyone born before you will be the same. Everyone born after you will be different. How this works, who knows, but at the same time, no one knows how the universe works.

Thank you for your time.
What about the babies that are born dead? What kind of tunnel of light they come thru?

 
Old 06-10-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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If we are all continuously going through this rebirth loop of a bright tunnel then why is the world population increasing?

Which tunnel are the new baby humans coming from?
 
Old 06-10-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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I just think the light at the very moment of dying and the light at the very moment of conception is very interesting. Perhaps there is some connection? I just brought it up because I've never heard anyone talk about this connection before.

Why wouldn't animals be reincarnated over and over? They are life forms just like we are.
I had a look an the 'flash of light' at the moment of conception is in fact a release of zinc atoms when the sperm enters the Ovum. Conception has not yet occurred as the genetic combination is yet to come. And it is of course grossly overdoing it to call it a Flash of Light, which appeals to the pro Lifers and Right wing rags like the Mail.

It seems that is the old business of fiddling the facts in order to provide "Evidence" for the Faith.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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Reincarnation is not a new theory.

He simply needs to watch Groundhog Day.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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I just think the light at the very moment of dying and the light at the very moment of conception is very interesting. Perhaps there is some connection? I just brought it up because I've never heard anyone talk about this connection before.

Why wouldn't animals be reincarnated over and over? They are life forms just like we are.

blue, everything is in The Light.
Everything is the way it is because of consciousness in it. Consciousness is the organizing principle of everything, without it there would have been nothing but shapeless amorphous Substance.
You won't argue, there clearly are two sides - nature side and intelligent side, right? On the intelligent side units of it are conscious that they are conscious. On the nature side, units are conscious only as their function.
On the intelligent side intelligence is due to The Light of Intelligence. Every intelligent self conscious being has a measure of it allotted to it and its level of progression is determined by how much of The Light that entity is allowed.
During conception, when two germs unite, of course The Light is present. After all, it is a new being with The Light conceived, right?
After death, in the first after the death state, conscious Self is presented in front of The Light of Intelligence.
There're your "lights" you are so much curious about.
Also, you are confusing re-incarnation with re-existence. During re-incarnation, SAME persona re-exists on Earth. Dalai Lama. As an example.
The rest re-exists, as in - personality acquired during physical life is forgotten and only the conscious Self re-exists.
No, no one re-lives same life over and over. There is no purpose in this. Purpose of physical existence is Self's education and progression, based on physical experiences and interactions with other Selves on Earth. Self accomplishes nothing by re-living same life.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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I had a look an the 'flash of light' at the moment of conception is in fact a release of zinc atoms when the sperm enters the Ovum. Conception has not yet occurred as the genetic combination is yet to come. And it is of course grossly overdoing it to call it a Flash of Light, which appeals to the pro Lifers and Right wing rags like the Mail.

It seems that is the old business of fiddling the facts in order to provide "Evidence" for the Faith.
Okay, but how would the not-yet-even-a-blastocyst see this?
 
Old 06-10-2016, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Now for how I think it all plays out:

1.) You die (not clinically dead, permanently dead)
2.) You go into the bright tunnel of light which is actually a warp back to your very beginning
3.) You go back in time to the very moment you were conceived
4.) You are alive again
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That is neither revolutionary nor original, but it is sad.

When you die, you cease to exist permanently. All that you were is gone. You have no soul or any other vehicle in which to escape death.

What ever it is you want to do or be, you need to be doing it now --- in this life, because this is the only chance you have.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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That was a fairly accurate description, dizzy. We will be with everyone and everything we held in love within our consciousness because those thoughts and feelings are the only ones that survive with us.
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I hope it isn't true. Yeah, I want to see the people I love and spend time with them. But if there is an afterlife, I sure hope there's more to it than that. I want to get to know and love EVERYONE and experience all there is to experience.
I think what you mean is you hope that isn't ALL that it is, Pleroo. It is that and much, much more. It is a birth into a new state of being with all that entails. If we had been aware, we could not have imagined what this physical life would be like based on our life in the womb. It will be no different for our spiritual birth.

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Old 06-10-2016, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If we are all continuously going through this rebirth loop of a bright tunnel then why is the world population increasing?

Which tunnel are the new baby humans coming from?
This question, and its non-answer, is what led me away from exploring reincarnation as a viable possibility.

Unless, of course, there was a progression of sorts, soul-wise, like some believe. Perhaps some start as a stone, or an insect and upon death graduate to a higher level of being.

We like to consider ourselves - humans - as the apex of that progression but I kinda' doubt it, for some reason.

Birds know more about weather than the dude on the Weather Network. Does that make them smarter than humans?

Yeah. In some important ways.

If we, as a species, want to grow, we need to pay more attention - with more sense - to the life that surrounds us.

And less navel-gazing.
 
Old 06-10-2016, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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This question, and its non-answer, is what led me away from exploring reincarnation as a viable possibility.

Unless, of course, there was a progression of sorts, soul-wise, like some believe. Perhaps some start as a stone, or an insect and upon death graduate to a higher level of being.

We like to consider ourselves - humans - as the apex of that progression but I kinda' doubt it, for some reason.

Birds know more about weather than the dude on the Weather Network. Does that make them smarter than humans?

Yeah. In some important ways.

If we, as a species, want to grow, we need to pay more attention - with more sense - to the life that surrounds us.

And less navel-gazing.
A long time ago I determined to believe in reincarnation and live an exemplary life in the hope of coming back as a sea otter.
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