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By George, I think he almost gets it. Guess what the conductor of those experiences back to the transcendent part of God is, wallflash??? Could it be - consciousness???
I understood this long before our disputes. The issue with us, which I do not wish to sidetrack this thread with, was evidence , not understanding . I understand a lot of religious beliefs , from fundie Baptist to Eastern Orthodoxy to Buddhism to Taoism , along with pantheism and panentheism . Understand them does not mean agreeing there is solid evidence of any of them .
Certainly the whole thing is unprovable . I simply described a view I once read and pointed out it was more sensible than the fundamental Christian view . Nothing concerning a transcendent supernatural being will ever be provable unless that being decided to make itself conclusively known . Which obviously hasn't happened .
Well, actually, if you were to accept that 'god" is eternal fundamental origin of everything, including countless Big Bangs, hence being the eternal "energy" of everything or, the way I know it, the organizational principle of everything, then you are actually existing in clear proof to such entity existence.
As you exist, everything else exists, everything is god hence, existence itself is proof.
It is very simple really. It becomes hard and complicated when over thought.
See the living God is far more Superior thinking mind then man is , , but God need faith to bring any of His energy to the blessing for man , as God is spirit of essence with substance , so God created the energy , and asking who created God is an impossible question and the only answer that God can give is no comment and this question only undermine God which demeans God
Op, I feel you need to determine first what a god is. If you get the right definition, it all is very simple and clear.
To comprehend and to understand God above all similitudes, as He is in Himself, is to be God with God, without intermediary, and without any otherness that can become a hindrance or an intermediary. Whosoever wishes to understand this must have died to himself, and must live in God, and must turn his gaze to the eternal light in the ground of his spirit, where the Hidden Truth reveals Itself without means. - Ruysbroek. ...
Op, I feel you need to determine first what a god is. If you get the right definition, it all is very simple and clear.
To comprehend and to understand God above all similitudes, as He is in Himself, is to be God with God, without intermediary, and without any otherness that can become a hindrance or an intermediary. Whosoever wishes to understand this must have died to himself, and must live in God, and must turn his gaze to the eternal light in the ground of his spirit, where the Hidden Truth reveals Itself without means. - Ruysbroek. ...
Well, for starters I am obviously referring to a creator God whose adherents believe to have created everything .
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