Ken Ham's Opening Day at the Ark. #FAIL only 4000 show up. (gospels, Christian)
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It's time that some said what you did. It HAD to be said.
Thank you. The two of them sure play the victim card if any of there proclamations are even questioned.
I have never been to the Royal Tyrrell yet when it's parking lot is so empty as the images from the Ark. If that is opening day during a weekday during the summer with decent weather the outlook is not encouraging for them from a business point of view. The Ranch museum in Cochrane was another example of someone thinking that if you build it people will come and it failed. I am using that museum as an example because it had zero to do with religion. The two mentioned posters will defend everything they perceive as being done by a Christian no matter what the project or deed is and accuse us of being against everything that a Christian does, part of their victim claim.
Perhaps the Ark just greatly over built the parking lot and ticket area. If I was them i would already be worried about cash flow and maintenance of unused space.
Originally Posted by badlander Considering that both you and Jeff misrepresent what the theory of evolution actually states or what an atheist actually is and refuse to even acknowledget anything that would better inform you I do not think you you can take a high ground here or on any other thread. The fact that neither you or Jeff give your God any respect as far as his ten Commandments go indicates to me that you both only want to use your religion as a tool upon others instead of being honest people.
We are not under either the 10 commandments nor all the 600 some laws given only to Israel. We are under grace.
You are the one misrepresenting us.
I don't misrepresent evolution. I merely stated that you can't prove humans evolved from knuckle draggers nor can you prove all life evolved from a single celled organism. That is not misrepresenting evolution. It is calling a spade a spade. Your evolution is a philosophy and an unprovable one at that. It is faith-based.
I have never used religion as a tool upon others as you misrepresent above. I suggest you quit misrepresenting my position.
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From my atheistic view, neither of you demonstrate the good that many Christians show or that is in your Bible. But maybe I am wrong and your religion is about making false statements about others and getting points for playing the victim.
Bla bla bla. So much from a person who misrepresents us. I suggest you take a class or two in Truth 101.
Thank you. The two of them sure play the victim card if any of there proclamations are even questioned.
I have never been to the Royal Tyrrell yet when it's parking lot is so empty as the images from the Ark. If that is opening day during a weekday during the summer with decent weather the outlook is not encouraging for them from a business point of view. The Ranch museum in Cochrane was another example of someone thinking that if you build it people will come and it failed. I am using that museum as an example because it had zero to do with religion. The two mentioned posters will defend everything they perceive as being done by a Christian no matter what the project or deed is and accuse us of being against everything that a Christian does, part of their victim claim.
Perhaps the Ark just greatly over built the parking lot and ticket area. If I was them i would already be worried about cash flow and maintenance of unused space.
Just more baloney from someone who continues to misrepresent us. It's not looking very good for you bud. You seem to be the poster child for Atheism. Lie about people all you can as long as it helps your case.
Religious faith is an emotional thing, it cannot be swayed by intellectual arguments one way or the other. The two operate on different levels.
Correct, but the fact is that very many - half or more - of atheists or 'agnostics' or "Nones" or indeed Irreligious theists, and for that matter liberal evolution - accepting Christians (There are Limits ) who are pretty much under the same roof..have got to where they are mainly through not being able to stop asking questions. It is often a slow and painful (mentally) process and sometimes it is quick. I hope that sometimes I can help with the questions or answers, but the only person who can decovert themselves is themselves.
There was an atheist I know who could decovert people with a magic word. He taught it to me but I forgot it.
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Originally Posted by Eusebius
In fact, you are wrong.
Mat 15:24 Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
And He told His disciples:
Mat_10:5 These twelve Jesus commissions, charging them, saying, "Into a road of the nations you may not pass forth, and into a city of the Samaritans you may not be entering.
That is under the law. We are not under law but under grace. We don't earn our way into salvation. It is gratuitously given to us of the nations.
Luke 12 is only to the Jews.
We are not under fear of Christ coming back in a bad way for us of the nations if we are not prepared to meet him.
For instance, they, the Israelite believer, must remain faithful till He returns or he will not be entering the kingdom.
With us of the nations under grace: "1Th 5:10 Who died for our sakes, that, whether we may be watching or drowsing, we should be living at the same time together with Him."
Wrong, did you even read the commentary I linked to?
A few things I wanted to mention after reading a lot about the Ark Encounter. First they had dinosaurs and unicorns on the Ark? I actually knew they believed dinosaurs were on it, but unicorns? Is that a joke or are they serious? Next, AiG could only find one company in the US who could make the wood boards to their specifications, and the only wood that would work was in the PNW. Wait, so even with modern technology they had to find a specialist company to do this work, and we are supposed to believe people hand built this using tools from thousands of years ago? They built some of the Ark using ancient techniques and some Amish (why?) techniques, but most of the ship was still built with modern technology and designs.
The financial projections have dropped considerably. From an original, 1.4 million visitors to 400,000 visitors annually. That comes out to just over a 1000 people a day. It was supposed to have a $150 million impact a year for the region and they have dropped that to $40 million. The park obviously is having funding issues as most of the park construction has been delayed 2-3 years.
I'm sure they don't have unicorns as in the heraldic beast, but the Biblical Unicorn may well be an ancient(and very big) Bovine. Ken Ham may well have selected a biggish Bovine "Kind"and desgnated it to be the "Unicorn". I'll look up the OT refs and Hebrew...don't go away...talk amongst yourselves, have a choc -ice...swipe at Eusebius...
Num 24:8 God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.
Job 39:9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
Psa 29:6 He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.
Psa 92:10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
The KJV translates Strongs H7214 in the following manner: unicorn (9x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
probably the great aurochs or wild bulls which are now extinct. The exact meaning is not known.
rĕ'em
Pronunciation
reh·ām' (Key)
Part of Speech
masculine noun
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...but the message about not lying with a man as you do a woman was for everyone huh?
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Originally Posted by Eusebius
No, that was under the law of Moses and that law was given only to the Israelite people who were under the law. But we who are outside the law can at least learn from what was given to them.
If it doesn't apply to you you shouldn't have a problem with it Edgar.
Wrong, did you even read the commentary I linked to?
Don't need to. It is not for believers of the nations. We believers of the nations do not have to sell all we have or do this or do that in order to enter into the kingdom Christ is going to set up in Israel during His millennial reign. In fact, believers of the nations won't even be in that kingdom on earth. We will be among the heavens during that time.
Mat 15:24 Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
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He was, and so were the disciples in his lifetime, and the gospels (which of course I don't believe, but you do) show him being persuaded to extend the message to the gentiles by examples of their faith. This means that in the end the mission of the disciples was to take what he had said to the wider world. Thus the message was meant for everyone, and even if Jesus (as Man as much as God) didn't know that, God did.
You lose yet again and I get to press the button!!!
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