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Old 08-09-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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The point is that a literal interpretation of the story just ... doesn't ... make ... sense. It's total BS, including that "god" thing.
That's my point.
Then just say that: "It's ALL a myth". Done!
But they don't do that. They go on, and on, and on, and on, and on, about every little detail and aspect of it that would not be possible to happen if it was a literal account...but fail to include the part about a God capable of miracles that was behind the whole plan to begin with, that is the essence of the literal account. The same with a literal critique of any other story in ancient theological writings. Jillions of threads and posts...for YEARS.
To do that is indicative of ignorance, bias, obsession...or a combination of those.
If not...they would just call "Myth", and be done with it.

 
Old 08-09-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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Ok then. My point remains though. If taken literally, the story is idiotic at best. The point people make when regarding whether it could have happened or not, is normally regarding the logistics of the story, not whether or not God did all these miracles (which are not mentioned in the Bible FYI) to make it happen. God can make miracles happen? Great. So how did he miraculously get all the animals to go there, feed the animals, house the animals, make the boat stay together, keep all plant life from dying, etc etc? Just waved his hand and said, "It shall be!"?? If the only answer to that is "Goddunnit!", then it just proves how silly and stupid the story truly is.


If taken literally, like a lot of Bible believers do, then yea, sure you can simply say, "Goddunnit!". However, that doesn't keep people from telling you just how stupid you have to be to believe it. As a non believer, you can look at the story logically and find all sorts of holes. The fact that there is ZERO evidence for this world wide flood is a big one, God or not. Again, as a believer, sure, you could say, "Well, God waved away the waters and poofed all the plants back into existence, and he put all the animals into a coma, and made then 1/4 of their normal size, blah blah blah," but again, it doesn't keep people from telling you how stupid that is. (Not you of course, but those who say such things.)


I understand what you are saying, but I am trying to explain that even given that the non believer must take it ALL literally, including the God part, it still makes for a very silly story, and the fact that there is no evidence and nothing other than a book filled with lies, errors, and inaccuracies to corroborate it, it makes no since to ASSUME that it is true.
Hey man...people believe "Gangsta Rap is great music"...and Don Trump & Hillary Clinton should be our choice for the next Prez.
Or...even though you are goofy, old, nerdy, and/or built like the Pillsbury Dough Boy...really hot girls want to be around you, and prefer to do that while naked. For the "small donation" of 25 bucks every 3 minutes...they will REALLY be into you! Me and a whole bunch of girls have made a fortune getting people to believe that.
You can get people to believe just about anything!
Especially if you promise them Eternal Paradise with no pain or sorrow, or a big crew of virgins to kick it with.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Hey man...people believe "Gangsta Rap is great music"...and Don Trump & Hillary Clinton should be our choice for the next Prez.
Or...even though you are goofy, old, nerdy, and/or built like the Pillsbury Dough Boy...really hot girls want to be around you, and prefer to do that while naked. For the "small donation" of 25 bucks every 3 minutes...they will REALLY be into you! Me and a whole bunch of girls have made a fortune getting people to believe that.
You can get people to believe just about anything!
Especially if you promise them Eternal Paradise with no pain or sorrow, or a big crew of virgins to kick it with.
I can find nothing to disagree with in your post.


You can truly get weak minded people to believe just about anything, especially with a reward attached.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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I can find nothing to disagree with in your post.
The Religious will need to do a "Coat Drive" for Satan...cuz Hell just froze over!
 
Old 08-09-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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The Religious will need to do a "Coat Drive" for Satan...cuz Hell just froze over!
I know, right? Hey, we may disagree almost all the time, as I do with several others on here as well, but it's good to know there is at least something we agree on!
 
Old 08-09-2016, 04:03 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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That's my point.
Then just say that: "It's ALL a myth". Done!
But they don't do that. They go on, and on, and on, and on, and on, about every little detail and aspect of it that would not be possible to happen if it was a literal account...but fail to include the part about a God capable of miracles that was behind the whole plan to begin with, that is the essence of the literal account. The same with a literal critique of any other story in ancient theological writings. Jillions of threads and posts...for YEARS.
To do that is indicative of ignorance, bias, obsession...or a combination of those.
If not...they would just call "Myth", and be done with it.
It's those pesky facts that get in the way, ain't it?
 
Old 08-09-2016, 05:16 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Please, people. Remember, this thread is about Ken Ham's Ark Encounter Theme Park. Noah's Ark is an entirely different story. Try to stay on topic.
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Old 08-09-2016, 06:41 PM
 
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It's those pesky facts that get in the way, ain't it?
Yes...and the fact is...the literal version of the story that Ken Hams' Ark Encounter Theme Park seeks to represent (and is completely predicated upon) contains the "pesky fact" that a God caused it to rain so much in just 960 hours, it caused floodwaters over the entire Earth that rose 30,000 feet (375 inches of rain per hour for 8 weeks straight) and covered even the highest mountains. Now...if they accept (for literal critique purposes) that a God did that...why do they question how any other aspect of the whole thing could be made to work out by that same God?
Ken Hams' Ark Encounter Theme Park is based upon the literal story...the WHOLE story...that necessarily includes what Biblegod did and/or was capable of doing. So...what is with all the questioning of how every little detail and issue could be solved?
 
Old 08-09-2016, 06:52 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Yes...and the fact is...the literal version of the story that Ken Hams' Ark Encounter Theme Park seeks to represent (and is completely predicated upon) contains the "pesky fact" that a God caused it to rain so much in just 960 hours, it caused floodwaters over the entire Earth that rose 30,000 feet (375 inches of rain per hour for 8 weeks straight) and covered even the highest mountains. Now...if they accept (for literal critique purposes) that a God did that...why do they question how any other aspect of the whole thing could be made to work out by that same God?
Ken Hams' Ark Encounter Theme Park is based upon the literal story...the WHOLE story...that necessarily includes what Biblegod did and/or was capable of doing. So...what is with all the questioning of how every little detail and issue could be solved?
Ken Ham's fArk is based on a scam, a way to make money off gullible people. The introduction of information that would make the potential customers wary of being cheated is a good idea iMNSHO.
 
Old 08-09-2016, 07:00 PM
 
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Ken Ham's fArk is based on a scam, a way to make money off gullible people. The introduction of information that would make the potential customers wary of being cheated is a good idea iMNSHO.
Then Ken Hams' Ark Encounter Theme Park is right in line with the Organized Religion it evolved from. Cha-Ching!
Good luck finding out how to inoculate against being suckered.
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