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Old 07-15-2016, 05:06 AM
 
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This is a remnant of an ancient volcano. Noah's flood washed away all the debris surrounding this. Normal water erosion nor wind erosion could not have accomplished this feat.

 
Old 07-15-2016, 05:10 AM
 
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Another image of the remnant of an ancient volcano where the debris has been washed away from it by Noah's flood. Neither normal rain fall nor wind could have accomplished this feat.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 05:16 AM
 
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I will use the above picture for an explanation for posts 595 and 596. The red lava cooled and was originally surrounded by cinders. What is seen in the pictures 595 and 596 is the cooled lava but all the cinders washed away by Noah's Flood.

This is another reason why it is important to have Ken Ham's ark representation. To show people how they've been lied to all these years that the Bible can't be trusted, that there never was a Noah's flood.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 05:22 AM
 
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Lol
 
Old 07-15-2016, 05:28 AM
 
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I don't know if anyone already answered it, but I'll try: because all non-human natural world had been created for man to use. When God cursed Adam after the fall, he cursed the natural world together with him, so it would not be benign for man anymore, but full of dangers and requiring much labor to survive in. Do you remember what the bible says about paradise where lamb and lion would stay together? That is only possible after mankind has been saved.

So, apparently is goes this way: the natural world with all its animal species is subservient to man. When man is cursed, they are cursed too. When man must die, all those other animals must die as well.
Kill an entire ecosystem, or just wave a hand and all the bad humans, even those still in the womb, disappear. Which way would make more sense...

 
Old 07-15-2016, 05:32 AM
 
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Kill an entire ecosystem, or just wave a hand and all the bad humans, even those still in the womb, disappear. Which way would make more sense...

Your response doesn't make a bit of sense as to what the person said you responded to. It is possible you misunderstood what the poster posted. Had God just waved a hand and all the bad humans, even those still in the womb, disappear, you'd be up in arms against such a Being doing such a thing.

But humanity must learn from the knowledge of good and evil. It is all for good though since one day the entire creation will be brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God (Romans 8).
 
Old 07-15-2016, 05:38 AM
 
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This is most likely what the volcanoes looked like in posts 595 and 596 above before Noah's flood waters washed away the surroundings of the main lava shaft.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 06:24 AM
 
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Your scientific explanations require faith and a degree of arrogance that we have it all or mostly figured out.
No. Nobody is making such claims. Not if they actually know anything about science. It is likely that very many things about existence and reality will never be fully understood by science. In science, events and other things are observed. A hypothesis is formulated suggesting "perhaps this happens for this reason...perhaps this is what caused this to take place...perhaps this functions in such a manner..." and so on.

Hypotheses are then tested, and checked, and retested, and rechecked--will the same tests yield the same results...what happens if we alter this variable or this parameter, over and over ad infinitum until a consensus, based on testing, observations, measurements, commiseration with other scientists and sometimes other disciplines, can be reached.

At that point, a theory may be formulated. Theories are then published, subsequent to which scientists from across the globe can and do rigorously test and recheck them to further ensure their testability and validity.

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There could be a future discovery that completely embarrasses the bold claims of science today.
Yes, this happens, and is a good thing, because science constantly observes, collects data, makes new discoveries and relentlessly seeks information and knowledge. It's not an "embarrassment" when science corrects itself. It's a question of new discoveries, new information, sometimes new technology being developed which allows for new methods of observation, or measurement, or data collection, and so on.

OR, we could deride and ignore all that and just point to some millennia-old books written by ancient desert dwellers who didn't even know what stars were or how many land masses the world contained and say "Welp, all the truth I need is right here, and it's all right and can't be wrong and every word is real and nothing will convince me otherwise because everything else conflicting with it has to be false because the Devil wants to trick me and I believe on Jesus like my daddy did and the preacher says and all those arrogant meanie science people hate god and want to fool everybody and they're gonna go to hell, so there."

Which is not only an embarrassment and slap in the face of human dignity and knowledge, but a bunch of groundless, infantile nonsense and BS, and nothing but.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 06:26 AM
 
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This is most likely what the volcanoes looked like in posts 595 and 596 above before Noah's flood waters washed away the surroundings of the main lava shaft.
Right. Because as you stated, with so much data to support your claim, ONLY the Flood, and not billions of years of erosion, could account for that. Good work, professor!
 
Old 07-15-2016, 06:29 AM
 
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I'm not trapped by anything. It has been proven by real scientists that the strata in the Grand Canyon was deposited by the world-wide flood of Noah's day.
"Real" scientists???

Oh, good ... then it must be so!

It's funny, but when I was at the Grand Canyon, that wasn't the explanation given to us.

Maybe the National Geographic Society doesn't consult "real" scientists.
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