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Old 07-15-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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And if a million showed up, no doubt you would call it a failure. I remember when I posted some time ago how Greg Laurie had an audience of over 80,000 people come to hisevent. The response from your camp? Oh so what, that's nothing compared to 300 million Americans!

The truth as I see it is that you NEED the ark to be a failure. BTW, you got any figures on those weekend totals? I would be curious to know that. Funny that that Ham haters are pretty quiet on that report.
Point us to where we can find those numbers. Mr. Google is not able to perform.

We WILL be able to suss out the real numbers once repayment of the TIF bonds gets made to Williamstown. And we can figure out the amount of staff by some calculations based on the 2% they have deducted from their incomes to repay those bonds.

BTW, Jeff, is that kosher that staff have to contribute 2% of their income to repay the bonds? That is at least a 25% increase in the Sales income tax to them.

 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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BTW, Jeff, is that kosher that staff have to contribute 2% of their income to repay the bonds? That is at least a 25% increase in the Sales income tax to them.
I find this unconscionable. I would call it outright robbery, except I have to assume that an employee, in the process of being hired, must willingly sign off on this, hard as it is for me to believe.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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I find this unconscionable. I would call it outright robbery, except I have to assume that an employee, in the process of being hired, must willingly sign off on this, hard as it is for me to believe.
I posted the documents earlier in this thread in post 534 .

It's true, and unconscionable. Almost christian like, don't you think?
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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We learn that Ken Ham lied about the opening day, and these pictures prove it. He use the one for the media day/VIP one and puported it to be opening day. How very christian like of this snake oil salesman.

Creationist Ken Ham Caught Misleading People About Ark Encounter’s Attendance on Opening Day
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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I posted the documents earlier in this thread in post 534 .

It's true, and unconscionable. Almost christian like, don't you think?
Yeah, I didn't mean I found it hard to believe Ham and his cohorts wouldn't put the workers on the hook for that 2%, I just find it hard to believe people would put up with it. Maybe he pays them well (I wonder...) or maybe that area is just hard up for jobs.

Aside from taxes, insurance and retirement, which comes directly out of my paychecks, I've never worked anywhere where I was told "Oh, and you have to pay us for the privilege of being an employee."

Even back when I was in gigging bands, you'd occasionally find places in bigger cities (well-known venues, more competition, etc.) or some "band showcase" events (like SXSW, though I've attended some of those, never played one) had a "pay-to-play" policy, the idea being the exposure your band would get was soo beneficial the club could charge you for playing there.

I never caved into that. Screw that.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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We learn that Ken Ham lied about the opening day, and these pictures prove it. He use the one for the media day/VIP one and puported it to be opening day. How very christian like of this snake oil salesman.

Creationist Ken Ham Caught Misleading People About Ark Encounter’s Attendance on Opening Day
I will stand by my previously stated opinion of your posting.

You have Christians living rent-free in your mind.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You're correct. But there is plenty of faith that in the beliefs that people hold to and call it "science". Stuff like abiogenesis, evolution, various theories on the origins of the universe, etc.
Not so. If there is faith involved then it just isn't science.

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Says the guy that thinks life just popped into existence from nothingness.
Actually, I 'say' no such thing but you are more than welcome to prove me wrong by producing a post where I have said that. It is, in fact, you not me that says that something can come from nothing as in your god creating everything from nothing.

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I've answered the question. Abiogenesis posits that life comes from non-life. That has NEVER been observed in nature.
Just like a dog has never been seen 'evolving' into a horse huh?

You know folks, there are times that I am convinced that Eusebius, Vizio and Jeff are all the same POE.

...but back to the topic of the thread.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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Yeah, I didn't mean I found it hard to believe Ham and his cohorts wouldn't put the workers on the hook for that 2%, I just find it hard to believe people would put up with it. Maybe he pays them well (I wonder...) or maybe that area is just hard up for jobs.
I worked for one of the casinos here in OK and everyone had to sign a form saying they would not ever file a lawsuit against the casino or tribe. If you didn't sign, you didn't get hired.
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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You have Christians living rent-free in your mind.
Hell, for free rent, I'd convert!
 
Old 07-15-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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I worked for one of the casinos here in OK and everyone had to sign a form saying they would not ever file a lawsuit against the casino or tribe. If you didn't sign, you didn't get hired.
Wow. Is it still open? Unlike Ham's Ark, casinos are usually big money-makers. That's surprising.

Say, have a good weekend. I'm cutting out. Get a full weekend first time in a month. Wish I wasn't broke! Talk with ya soon brother!

(I'll be on here probably...)
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