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It's listed under the Duties of Elected Officials, Miscellaneous powers subsection.
I just looked through all the posts you have made in this thread, and you have posted no links to any part of the KRS other than 402, which deals with marriages. I was specifically asking about the part of the KRS that defines the duties, responsibilities and authorities of judges. I asked because I am unfamiliar with Kentucky law, I am not a lawyer, and you said you do searches of the KRS on a daily basis. The marriage code is unclear, so I thought the defining section about judges might clarify. Oh, well. The lawsuit will settle it.
Why should government be concerned with "sin", which is a religious concept?
The government need not be, but the judge should have his 1st Amendmnet rights not impeded. If performing a wedding such as that violates his conscience, he should not be required by government to do it.
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Why should a citizen need to go to a different county to receive government services?
For the same reason I do. The DMV is not available at all times in my county, so my daughter had to take her driver's test in the neighboring county. But I didn't file a lawsuit whining about it. We drove to the next county.
The government need not be, but the judge should have his 1st Amendmnet rights not impeded. If performing a wedding such as that violates his conscience, he should not be required by government to do it.
For the same reason I do. The DMV is not available at all times in my county, so my daughter had to take her driver's test in the neighboring county. But I didn't file a lawsuit whining about it. We drove to the next county.
That's a really big assumption you made there. It's wrong too. These people were simply looking for a secular marriage ceremony for their non-religious, yet heterosexual marriage.
Since when did a government official's conscience have anything to do with performing the duties of his job?
That's a really big assumption you made there. It's wrong too. These people were simply looking for a secular marriage ceremony for their non-religious, yet heterosexual marriage.
And they are certainly free to do so.
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Since when did a government official's conscience have anything to do with performing the duties of his job?
Performing marriage ceremonies for every couple that walks through his door is not a part of his essential duties. Do you have any documentation to show that he has never declined to do a wedding for any reason? Was he justified in doing so? I turned down a wedding last year because I did not believe that the couple should be married. They were a hetero couple, but I did not want to be a part of it. He has the same freedom.
Incidentally, the couple was able to secure another officiant with no issues. They still got married, regardless of my involvement.
Performing marriage ceremonies for every couple that walks through his door is not a part of his essential duties. Do you have any documentation to show that he has never declined to do a wedding for any reason? Was he justified in doing so? I turned down a wedding last year because I did not believe that the couple should be married. They were a hetero couple, but I did not want to be a part of it. He has the same freedom.
Incidentally, the couple was able to secure another officiant with no issues. They still got married, regardless of my involvement.
Sure you can. You can refuse to conduct any marriage ceremony you choose. However, that is entirely irrelevant to the question you were asked. The public official absolutely does not have the same right. He does not get to pick and choose which tasks to perform. In your role as a pastor, you are not employed by the government.
Performing marriage ceremonies for every couple that walks through his door is not a part of his essential duties. Do you have any documentation to show that he has never declined to do a wedding for any reason? Was he justified in doing so? I turned down a wedding last year because I did not believe that the couple should be married. They were a hetero couple, but I did not want to be a part of it. He has the same freedom.
Incidentally, the couple was able to secure another officiant with no issues. They still got married, regardless of my involvement.
You are not a government employee. You are free to officiate or not as you see fit.
Sure you can. You can refuse to conduct any marriage ceremony you choose. However, that is entirely irrelevant to the question you were asked. The public official absolutely does not have the same right. He does not get to pick and choose which tasks to perform. In your role as a pastor, you are not employed by the government.
Of course he does. Can you back up your assertion that no judge has ever denied performing a marriage ceremony for any reason, and if they have, they violated the Constitution?
The government need not be, but the judge should have his 1st Amendmnet rights not impeded. If performing a wedding such as that violates his conscience, he should not be required by government to do it.
Sure you can. You can refuse to conduct any marriage ceremony you choose. However, that is entirely irrelevant to the question you were asked. The public official absolutely does not have the same right. He does not get to pick and choose which tasks to perform. In your role as a pastor, you are not employed by the government.
Absolutely correct, to the bolded part in particular.
I work for a municipality. I don't get to pick and choose which duties I perform and which citizens I serve based on my own personal spiritual views, nor should I.
If my own views conflict with the performance of my assigned duties--duties which I would have, or certainly should have, been aware of before I committed to taking the job and performing these duties--then it's time to find another job.
I don't get to play a religion card and get a free pass to disregard city policies and regulations, treat certain citizens of the community differently, or not follow my supervisor's instructions without the expectation of being fired.
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