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Old 12-08-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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This article blew me away:

The 5 Stages of a Spiritual Awakening | Soul Science

I think I'm mostly on Stage 4. Don't care if I reach 5 or not; 4 is plenty good for me! Stage 3 isn't easy for sure.

Do religious people go through these stages? Or just us spiritual but not religious"? What stage are you on?
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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This article blew me away:

The 5 Stages of a Spiritual Awakening | Soul Science

I think I'm mostly on Stage 4. Don't care if I reach 5 or not; 4 is plenty good for me! Stage 3 isn't easy for sure.

Do religious people go through these stages? Or just us spiritual but not religious"? What stage are you on?
-327 with a four barrel carb.

God speed John Glen.

I am working on even caring what happens to us. If our brains are a volume of space that "thinks" then the question becomes how big a volume is it?

"how small is it" #5, gravity waves, and Brian's Greens "what is space" points to ... yeah, whatever, at least the volume of planet earth.

What it means on a personal level is irrelevant to me, I only do "how it works", Not what I need it to mean to function as a smart ape.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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For me it was just God saving me.
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Do religious people go through these stages? Or just us spiritual but not religious"?
Two conceptualizations of "phases of spiritual development" that are similar were proposed by M. Scott Peck and by Ken Wilbur. Peck's phases are:

Stage 1: Chaotic, Antisocial

Stage 2: Formal, Institutional, Fundamental

Stage 3: Skeptic, Individual, Questioner

Stage 4: Mystical, Communal

See the link for details, but basically, he saw a general progression from areligion to fundamentalism followed by an abreaction to skepticism / agnosticism / atheism, followed by a sort of synthesis returning to more liberal theism, in the sense of loosely-held, non-doctrinaire beliefs emphasizing community and unity.

Personally I think Stage 4 does not require one to return to belief in deities, that seems extraneous to me, though of course it doesn't exclude theism. It simply makes space for intersubjective communal development, for a less clinical, more other-centeredness, more empathy and compassion, an emphasis on listening rather than talking, that sort of thing.

Such concepts have value if you don't take them over-literally. Even Peck admitted that people can move backwards, spend very little time in a stage, or get stuck in a stage, and that some people's journey doesn't seem to fit his concept at all. Personally I have found his stages to be a fair, if rough and imperfect, description of a sort of "spiritual developmental story arc" that seems to fit a lot of people, especially if you overlay it with an understanding of compartmentalization that would allow a person to be in different stages in different aspects / contexts of their lives.
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:50 PM
 
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the stages seem like periods and groups to me.

err, did I jut overlay the Periodic table again?

well, we are in its image.
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Old 12-08-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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For me it was just God saving me.
It wasn't predestined? Most of us (humans) made a conscious decision to develop a relationship based on LOVE and never really expected anything in return..

But since it was mentioned, what were you saved from? Drowning? Quicksand? Boredom and self-loathing in Vegas?
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Old 12-08-2016, 08:39 PM
 
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I wouldn't describe it exactly as that article states. We are all unique and we have our own ways of doing things but there are similarities...

I think it was predestined. I was prepared since babyhood for what was to be. There was a lot of foreshadowing. It is all about the work, but work is the only thing worth doing.
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:23 PM
 
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Good article.
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Old 12-09-2016, 03:18 AM
 
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These 5 steps sound like New Age beliefs which have limitations ............., where with Christianity people can discover the unseen Spirit , from two days to six months or more depending on what Jesus gives you by the faith that you extend ,............ but the Christian experience goes beyond even this as God gives His people new senses to see and hear and even touch into the Spirit , and what is there is the enemies of life , so you need God to over come the enemies of life which are the demonic spirits that are the enemies , .........................Like that pain you had for years on your body , now through spiritual awakening you can see through the spirit the demon spirit who is corrupting your body with this pain , where God through Jesus can remove this demon by His power
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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These 5 steps sound like New Age beliefs which have limitations ............., where with Christianity people can discover the unseen Spirit , from two days to six months or more depending on what Jesus gives you by the faith that you extend ,............ but the Christian experience goes beyond even this as God gives His people new senses to see and hear and even touch into the Spirit , and what is there is the enemies of life , so you need God to over come the enemies of life which are the demonic spirits that are the enemies , .........................Like that pain you had for years on your body , now through spiritual awakening you can see through the spirit the demon spirit who is corrupting your body with this pain , where God through Jesus can remove this demon by His power
These "New Age" beliefs, as you call them, pre-date Christianity by a few thousand years, if you want to address "new age" beliefs we might want to begin with Christianity and then Islam, both of these are the newest.
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