Israel’s Declaration of Independence and the Biblical Right to the Land (America, bible)

Found this article very interesting: https://thetorah.com/israels-declara...t-to-the-land/

Israel's justification for the right to the land is one of conflict depending on the religious and political factors of the time. In the Bible the justification is completely based upon them being strangers chosen and used by God to expel the inhabitants because of the promise to them and the evil of those in the land thus justifying their genocidal attempts. Yet the irony is that the truth of history is that the Israelites were not foreigners whose ancestor Abraham came from Ur. They were a subset of Canannites who split off in their religious beliefs and chose to create false stories about their origins to separate themselves from such evil peoples. As such it is a funny set of circumstances with the Bible and history both being used for the same purpose yet conflicting with one another. Israel does have a legitimate right to the land but not because of what is written in the Bible and the declaration of Israel understood this truth.

Whatever the case, reliance on biblical ideology or historiography is a double-edged sword since the Bible often includes conflicting conceptions. In this case, the notion of Israel’s indigenous origins championed in Israel’s Declaration of Independence, which contradicts the Bible’s major account, finds precedent in the late biblical Book of Chronicles.

What think you?

[ukrkoz]

Well, to be honest, it's not Biblical justification. Jews do not consider Bible to be of any sacred value.
They have Torah, Talmud. Which Bible is derivative from.

Different story is they are using justification from THEIR deity promise - and the entire world obeys.
That's quite some credit to YHWH.

Originally Posted by ukrkoz

Well, to be honest, it's not Biblical justification. Jews do not consider Bible to be of any sacred value.
They have Torah, Talmud. Which Bible is derivative from.

Different story is they are using justification from THEIR deity promise - and the entire world obeys.
That's quite some credit to YHWH.

But they don't appeal to God or YHWH's promise in their declaration to justify it - the declaration only mentions 'the Almighty' in the very last sentence.

Placing our trust in the Almighty, we affix our signatures to this proclamation at this session of the provisional Council of State, on the soil of the Homeland, in the city of Tel-Aviv, on this Sabbath eve, the 5th day of Iyar, 5708 (14th May, 1948).

[treemoni]

The Israel that everyone talks about is not the real Israel. The children of Israel are in the Americas. What's going on in the "Middle East" is just a smoke screen.

[badlander]

Originally Posted by treemoni

The Israel that everyone talks about is not the real Israel. The children of Israel are in the Americas. What's going on in the "Middle East" is just a smoke screen.

Could you clarify what you mean?

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by ukrkoz

Well, to be honest, it's not Biblical justification. Jews do not consider Bible to be of any sacred value.
They have Torah, Talmud. Which Bible is derivative from.

Different story is they are using justification from THEIR deity promise - and the entire world obeys.
That's quite some credit to YHWH.

What do you think the Torah is?...

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by treemoni

The Israel that everyone talks about is not the real Israel. The children of Israel are in the Americas. What's going on in the "Middle East" is just a smoke screen.

Do what?...😳

Originally Posted by treemoni

The Israel that everyone talks about is not the real Israel. The children of Israel are in the Americas. What's going on in the "Middle East" is just a smoke screen.

What? Ok! I think you might be in the wrong thread.

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Shiloh1

What? Ok! I think you might be in the wrong thread.

British Israelism...

Originally Posted by Richard1965

British Israelism...

Ah yes! He's definitely in the wrong thread.