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"He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God."
What do I think? That I don't care very much what almost anyone said 2,500 years ago. There is too much time between us to have much in common in terms of life.
What do I think? That I don't care very much what almost anyone said 2,500 years ago. There is too much time between us to have much in common in terms of life.
It seems like a person wouldn't get much out of literature in general, if they didn't appreciate something from a classical author.
It seems like a person wouldn't get much out of literature in general, if they didn't appreciate something from a classical author.
Oh. Is that what you're really interested in? A critique of his play-writing? Okay, I remember reading him when I took a course in high school in World Drama. I think we read "Prometheus Bound", but as I understand it there is now great question as to whether or not he was the author.
Oh. Is that what you're really interested in? A critique of his play-writing? Okay, I remember reading him when I took a course in high school in World Drama. I think we read "Prometheus Bound", but as I understand it there is now great question as to whether or not he was the author.
I guess we don't really know if he wrote that or if he wrote this line. But I'm more interested in what this thought means to people. Even if it was written thousands of years ago, I don't think that's enough time that human beings would have changed in any substantial way.
I guess we don't really know if he wrote that or if he wrote this line. But I'm more interested in what this thought means to people. Even if it was written thousands of years ago, I don't think that's enough time that human beings would have changed in any substantial way.
Don't you think (ahem) that a christian will already have a preset opinion about the quote that will be just the opposite of the opinion of an atheists. And aren't both views rather predictable?
"He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God."
Aeschylus (525-455 BC)
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What do you think of this quote from Aeschylus?
All life experience should add up to learning. But suffering and joy are extremes that tend to drive home certain lessons with exclamation marks.
But true seekers sift the mundane for nuggets of knowledge as well. If you learn to appreciate small things, you'll never truly want, because they abound.
"He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God."
Aeschylus (525-455 BC)
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What do you think of this quote from Aeschylus?
I think that's one translation. Here's another:
Quote:
Zeus, who guided mortals to be wise, has established his fixed law—wisdom comes through suffering. Trouble, with its memories of pain, drips in our hearts as we try to sleep, so men against their will learn to practice moderation. Favours come to us from gods seated on their solemn thrones—such grace is harsh and violent.
Of course, the lifespan of Aeschylus is such that the use of 'God' in the quote - 'God' being the English proper name of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic deity - is obviously incorrect in describing the power(s) to whom Aeschylus was referring.
What do I think? That I don't care very much what almost anyone said 2,500 years ago. There is too much time between us to have much in common in terms of life.
Not so.
It means there is no spiritual growth without pain.
Atomic theory traces its roots to democritus 2500 yrs ago.
Its unwise to assume the past was ignorant or stupid.
Not so.
It means there is no spiritual growth without pain.
Atomic theory traces its roots to democritus 2500 yrs ago.
Its unwise to assume the past was ignorant or stupid.
I didn't say anything in terms of ignorance or stupidity. I mentioned a lack of very much in common. And that includes religion. After all, he was writing almost 500 years before the birth of Christ. http://www.theatredatabase.com/ancie...hylus_008.html outlines the religious views of Aeschylus, and they were not christian, but rather based on the supreme god Zeus.
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