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Old 09-12-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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That's fine for your individualized personal religion. It is not accurate for christianity.
I don't recall that Mystic calls himself a Christian. (?)

For the record, I do not nor can call myself one, according to the Nicene Council's Creed/definition.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I don't recall that Mystic calls himself a Christian. (?)

For the record, I do not nor can call myself one, according to the Nicene Council's Creed/definition.
Just for the record I just deleted a long explanatory post when I realised that I was damn' near Inviting Mystic to burst in like Monty Python's Spanish inquisition, when if fact he probably won't need any invitation.
I may need to save the explanation for later, as you won't get one from him.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:41 PM
 
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I don't recall that Mystic calls himself a Christian. (?)
For the record, I do not nor can call myself one, according to the Nicene Council's Creed/definition.
The Nicene Council's Creed/definition has nothing to do with being a Christian. Following Jesus the Christ is what is necessary to be a Christian. That means following His instructions to His disciples to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't. The entire panoply of "precepts and doctrines of men" is irrelevant to being a Christian. God is concerned with our state of mind and that state of mind has to be agape love, NOT a bunch of "precepts and doctrines of men."
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:42 AM
 
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The Nicene Council's Creed/definition has nothing to do with being a Christian. Following Jesus the Christ is what is necessary to be a Christian. That means following His instructions to His disciples to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't. The entire panoply of "precepts and doctrines of men" is irrelevant to being a Christian. God is concerned with our state of mind and that state of mind has to be agape love, NOT a bunch of "precepts and doctrines of men."
I'm sure you will have a difficult time convincing a majority of self-proclaimed Christians to accept this definition, even though you possess your special lifeline to the Almighty.
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I do not.
I can not even imagine a Being of such love and magnificence wanting
a goat sacrificed on this teeny, far off planet hidden amongst billions and billions of planets,
amongst billions of solar systems ...(What kind of sacrifice was it anyway?
People came to the market to buy animals just to sacrifice! Where's the sacrifice? Did they then eat the sacrifice or toss it? )
Another man-made concept?
Discuss...
Convince me that God needed a blood sacrifice...why would you personally think this...understanding that a verse from the Bible would convince no one.
Why do YOU think a magnificent, brilliant Spirit, unseen, maintaining billions of solar systems would need a goat killed - or a human. What sense does it even make?

And this is not to say I don't love and follow Jesus and His Father God.
I am not an atheist, by any means.

But this belief in blood letting to appease God is pretty 'out there'! Come on...
It is more evidence for how (and why) Christianity began.

Jesus was the replacement for the Jewish temple sacrifice (as described in the epistle to the Hebrews).

And if one starts from iron age concepts, one will often keep iron age concepts in that religion.
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Old 09-13-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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Iron Age!?

That’s the time when omnigod was defeated by iron chariots?
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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The Nicene Council's Creed/definition has nothing to do with being a Christian. Following Jesus the Christ is what is necessary to be a Christian. That means following His instructions to His disciples to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't. The entire panoply of "precepts and doctrines of men" is irrelevant to being a Christian. God is concerned with our state of mind and that state of mind has to be agape love, NOT a bunch of "precepts and doctrines of men."
Lol, well, you and I know that! We also are wise enough to know there is no need for labels, period.
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Old 09-13-2018, 07:57 PM
 
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Lol, well, you and I know that! We also are wise enough to know there is no need for labels, period.
"Christ" is a label.
so no need for that label either.

wise indeed.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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"Christ" is a label.
so no need for that label either.

wise indeed.

God, or G-d, or g-d is a label too, is it not?
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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God, or G-d, or g-d is a label too, is it not?
I never thought of it as a label...as I don't think of a 'dog or 'boy' are labels.

That's a champion dog is a description, adjective and also a label. Not just a plain dog anymore.
That boy is gay....is a description, adjective and also a label. Not just a boy anymore.
Mrs. Katz is a woman..noun. Mrs. Katz is Sikh...a label, adjective, description.

But, tree, boy, dog, woman...are nouns.
But, if you get into it...every word that exists is a label, so we have that ,too!
Chair, sky, refrigerator...all labels when you get down to it!
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