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Where is that word in the bible? Otherwise one just assumes.
Why would God send Jonah to the assyrians if he knew the outcome already. Why would God threaten their destruction if he knew the outcome already?
The assyrians were absolutely wicked--They did many bad things to other mortals whom they deemed as enemies. They went out of their way to make mortals suffer as much as possible before killing them. They cut body parts off and watched mortals suffer. They were sick in the heart-yet God gave them a chance and they listened and turned.
This thread has taken some fascinating turns. I had no idea that "christians" believed the "cast down from heaven" myth. A lot of the ideas about Satan presented here are from Islamic mythology, and not even orthodox Islam, but just folk tales told by desert tribes. Some of them as interpreted by Walt Disney.
Thank you so much for this little dip into Christian demonology.
Why didn’t eve drop dead like god said would happen?
Both Adam and Eve died spiritually on the spot upon eating of that tree. And In Peter it states-1000 years is as a day to God( 2Peter 3:8)--Both died before that day to God ended.
This thread has taken some fascinating turns. I had no idea that "christians" believed the "cast down from heaven" myth. A lot of the ideas about Satan presented here are from Islamic mythology, and not even orthodox Islam, but just folk tales told by desert tribes. Some of them as interpreted by Walt Disney.
Thank you so much for this little dip into Christian demonology.
The whole saw it occur in 1914= revelation 6-- The war in heaven--Michael rode the white horse. He defeated satan and his angels and were booted out of heaven forever to the EARTH.
That's just all talk. Empty threats and promises. No need for an omnipotent god to mess around with 'prophecies'.
Which lie exactly? Are you referring to the fruit of good and evil? The one that God put there? The serpent guy was telling the truth - it was the Garden of Eden god who lied (when he said they would surely die if they partook of the fruit - they didn't).
Not trusting God is a mistake? Not trusting the one who put the tree in the Garden in the first place?
God only knows what his will, will accomplish in the future--He does not know the future.
Adam and Eve are both dead. So yes they did die.
God didn't want robots--He gave all free will so they could choose to listen to his advice like a Father.
Allwho know God, knows he is correct in every decision. Loving and just.
I get what you are saying, but again, this is Satan, the angel that REBELLED against God and heaven, the angels of God fought a war in heaven, Satan and the 1/3 were booted out....so why would God even allow Satan to have the ability to influence adam and eve, or mankind in general?
Ok, satan...you are forced to leave heaven, you will eventually be chained up in the pit for 1000 yrs and then destroyed in the lake of fire for what you have done...but hey, until that time, you have ACCESS and ability to influence and seek to destroy as many humans as possible!...does that sound realistic? LOL
Rev 6 is the war in heaven= 1914
God is allowing this system to prove the issues wrong that satan brought up in Eden. Then again against the true followers concerning Job. Our first human parents chose this system by rebelling.
All have this set before them--Deuteronomy 30:19-- Life or DEATH both will be everlasting.. We are making the choice now--95% action-5% lip service. Most do it the other way around and are failing.
And yet the Internet and forums are man made and are part of this world, as are bridges, planes and ice cream.
Yes one must use wisdom in what they choose. While being no part of this world(satan controlled parts) one must still live in this world. It meant more like--the things that are in the power positions and things God hates)--Govts, false religions, world celebrations, greed, drunkenness, drug addiction, idolatry, spiritism, hatred. all sex out of marriage. liars, cheating, etc.
-- all of those things come off the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21) One must learn what that table consists of so as to not partake off of it--yet 99% on earth are partaking daily. Because most teachers are blind guides who fail to warn what that table consists of.
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