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Ok, Golden Man, I made my comment above without seeing this.
In other words, we need to fact check your references, because you don't.
That is true. I just do a search and take it as it comes.
It is also true that some stuff could be less than completely accurate. That's kinda the way it goes when a gazillion sites come up off a search. Even the stuff saying something is false could be false!
But...as you know, that wasn't my main point. My post #50 explains my opinion on the "Founding Fathers".
That is my hope, it's just not in Christianity, but I wait on a flood where the whole world becomes one religion where mankind evolves. At Least, those are the great hopes of the prophets when they speak about one world, one religion. That religion is Judaism of course. I will be called the king of Texas in that day and given the name,'' Oneiphorus.'' In the days of the coming theocracy, power will be doled out, but yeah, let the therocracy begin
I can only speak for myself and my own rule, but there shall be no Philistine passing through the borders of my land.
Me too.
That will happen when we all get rational and become atheists, running away from all ancient mythologies. Especially the ones that popped up in the middle east.
That is true. I just do a search and take it as it comes.
It is also true that some stuff could be less than completely accurate. That's kinda the way it goes when a gazillion sites come up off a search. Even the stuff saying something is false could be false!
But...as you know, that wasn't my main point. My post #50 explains my opinion on the "Founding Fathers".
Let me post a short video which explains better than I can as to what you just did:
That will happen when we all get rational and become atheists, running away from all ancient mythologies. Especially the ones that popped up in the middle east.
Why would you think that was ever an option? I can only sympathize because I hope in the same thing, but I have scripture to rationalize and back up what I believe with other bible believers, I have a method to my madness.
But you?
What? You gonna come out with some new crazy pill that cures crazy?
You gonna come out with some kind of pill that vanquishes all hope?
You can't kill hope, I mean, I wished it was better news, I really do, but I know you are too damned smart to know that you can't EVER surpress crazy whether they be a God or not, or whether you erase everyone's mind, and then irradicate all religion with all the books and start a new, a hope in God would surely arise and there would be no stopping it.
I sidestepped nothing. I told you just what I did.
Copy & Paste isn't "uneducated"...it is just what it is, Copy & Paste. It isn't like I changed anything that came up.
As if we know exaclty what anyone said over 250 years ago. Not like there is video.
I gave you the source of Paines stuff. Do you still think that is false now? Seemed legit to me.
And that stuff from Jefferson is repeated many places on the Web.
Did you do fullblown research on the 100% validity of every quote in the link you put up in your OP?
OTOH y'all gettin all bolloxed-up about it is very amusing. So, please don't stop.
I sidestepped nothing. I told you just what I did.
Copy & Paste isn't "uneducated"...it is just what it is, Copy & Paste. It isn't like I changed anything that came up.
As if we know exaclty what anyone said over 250 years ago. Not like there is video.
I gave you the source of Paines stuff. Do you still think that is false now? Seemed legit to me.
And that stuff from Jefferson is repeated many places on the Web.
Did you do fullblown research on the 100% validity of every quote in the link you put up in your OP?
OTOH y'all gettin all bolloxed-up about it is very amusing. So, please don't stop.
So you actually willy-nilly post stuff you find on the web.
This is a good illustration of the enigma that is our Founding Fathers, regarding their religious beliefs. Franklin also never joined a church, yet he contributed to more than a dozen churches in Philadelphia, including a Jewish synagogue. He was one of the editors of the Declaration of Independence, which, at his suggestion changed the wording from "We hold these truths to be sacred and un-deniable..." to "We hold these truths to be self-evident." He changed it from a more religious phrasing to a less religious phrasing.
So, just how religious was Franklin? Nobody alive today knows.
I often wonder why Christians want to keep making the claim that America is a Christian nation. What's their point? That we should operate under a theocratic government?
Excellent question. It's sort of a fall-back proof that they're in the right...but to people of other beliefs (whether Buddhist or atheist or __________) it has no meaning whatsoever. And instead of persuading us, it's more likely to engender anger and resentment and push-back. They just weren't used to so much push-back until social media came along.
So you actually willy-nilly post stuff you find on the web.
Interesting. Most of us know better.
Oh...I would say most do likewise.
Oh, and it isn't "willy-nilly"...it is info that comes up on the first page or two, so you know it is commonly looked at.
You didn't answer the question about the Paine citation. Guess you need better "spidey sense".
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