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why did jesus regard both herod and pilate as powerless?
judging by* jesus' demeanor in the prescence of both herod and pilate, one can infer that jesus didnt regard their authority, even though they had the power to free him
prior to being in the presence of both pilate and herod, jesus disregarded the forewarning of the pharisees in these verses:
Luke 13:31-32 (WBS)
31 The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying to him, Go out, and depart hence; for Herod will kill thee.
32 And he said to them, Go ye and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out demons, and I do cures to-day and to-morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
do you think that this teaching prior to the crucifixtion was a predictor of his demeanor toward pilate and herod?
Luke 12:4 (WBS)* And I say to you, my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
jesus taught that overcoming the world was the premise of our existence . he stated this in this verse:
John 16:33 (WBS)* These things I have spoken to you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye will have tribulation, but be of good cheer: I have overcome the world.
what do you think of jesus' demeanor* in the prescense of both pilate and herod?
i think jesus' demeanor toward pilate and herod illustrated that this world is just s small part of a bigger existence and purpose.
why did jesus regard both herod and pilate as powerless?
Maybe this isn't what you were looking for, but Jesus had professed to be a prophet. Someone professing such a thing could be tried only by the Sanhedrin. Neither Herod or Pilate had a right to condemn Him to death.
Maybe this isn't what you were looking for, but Jesus had professed to be a prophet. Someone professing such a thing could be tried only by the Sanhedrin. Neither Herod or Pilate had a right to condemn Him to death.
Except of course, by right of conquest. If Yahweh wasn't with the Jews, then neither were Yahweh's rules. Then again, the Romans might have agreed to such a thing in peace/conquest treaties, they seemed to favor the Jews for their suppositions of supporting long-standing tradition, and as such legally legitimized Judaism, which was not a "atheist" religion in that it did not deny the existence nor divinity (as children of the ultimate creator) of pagan gods.
Neither Pilot nor Herod were sovereign rulers, they both worked for Caesar and the Empire (if at the time it were a Republic or Oligarchy or Democracy or anything else), they technically weren't even as sovereign as a State governor. But the Messiah is supposed to be a sovereign, and the Priests and Prophets can only advice/condemn.
Calling Herod a "fox" and telling them to tell Herod that today and tomorrow you hold some magical power over demons and on the third day you will be finally perfect (as a perfect Messiah wins the Reconquista) would definitely be seen as an insult and a threat, one even levied by many Jews that claimed themselves as Messiahs. And back then they wouldn't even think about freedom of speech. Communication/Marketing has power and can win power, after all.
"I have taught you this because in believing in these things, you shall have peace, but in the world, you will have tribulation because of me."
Is it peace or tribulation? Is it Mercy or Justice? It's simply bias where allegiance lies, and it does lie.
Last edited by LuminousTruth; 10-19-2018 at 10:02 PM..
excuse unedited cell phone grammar that has errors
why did jesus regard both herod and pilate as powerless?
judging by* jesus' demeanor in the prescence of both herod and pilate, one can infer that jesus didnt regard their authority, even though they had the power to free him
prior to being in the presence of both pilate and herod, jesus disregarded the forewarning of the pharisees in these verses:
Luke 13:31-32 (WBS)
31 The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying to him, Go out, and depart hence; for Herod will kill thee.
32 And he said to them, Go ye and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out demons, and I do cures to-day and to-morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
do you think that this teaching prior to the crucifixtion was a predictor of his demeanor toward pilate and herod?
Luke 12:4 (WBS)* And I say to you, my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
jesus taught that overcoming the world was the premise of our existence . he stated this in this verse:
John 16:33 (WBS)* These things I have spoken to you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye will have tribulation, but be of good cheer: I have overcome the world.
what do you think of jesus' demeanor* in the prescense of both pilate and herod?
i think jesus' demeanor toward pilate and herod illustrated that this world is just s small part of a bigger existence and purpose.
God through Jesus Christ is sovereign of the heaven and the earth , and God will protect people he appoints
I'm guessing you think JFK wasn't appointed by God, How long did Stalin and Pol Pot rule again? And indeed perhaps God needed Herod, Pilot, and Judas so much as to harden their hearts (as was literally done with the pharaoh in the story).
I mean, the Kim family has been going on in North Korea for three generations I hear, must have been heavily protected by the crucified god. And how many times did the rich American Christians in the CIA try to assassinate Fidel, probably more than the number of times they attempted to assassinate the socialist Chilean president or his ambassador to the United States in "whoops" US ground. Trump (and I'm sure Turkey) are simply playing the murder and dismemberment of the "U.S. resident" Arabian dissident journalist by the book of Hades Pluto, whose name means hiding and wealth, whose name truly means Tax and Scrutiny Exempt Religion (from what sum they can gather from the poor and the chunks they can gather from the rich).
What a patient slumber your Messiah Joshua has. They do say 1,000 years is like a single day to the Hindu gods, perhaps the Jewish god and its slave gods (angels, whom it denies as children of its creation (in Islam, some Christianity)) share that same weakness.
What a weakness and regretful foreplanned burden. Perhaps if only their beasts of burden helped out the gods then the gods and despicable demons could continue acting like they don't exist.
A truly convincing attempt. To some, at least. There are always cronies wanting things out there.
Their desires are truly ignorant and dreadful. Easy to manipulate into behaving or misbehaving like any cheap prostitute.
Last edited by LuminousTruth; 10-20-2018 at 05:53 AM..
"powerless" would have to be defined. Many people are powerless in not being their next thought. Many people are "powerless" because they are ignorant of the facts that make us human. I am using "ignorant" as "just not knowing", I am not trying to put them down.
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