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There is no evidence of this, especially as the earliest Christian texts we have were written in Greek. We also have the fact that Greek had been spoken in that region since the time of Alexander, especially in the Decapolis, on the opposite side of the Jordan to Galilee.
I suppose that does make sense, doesn't it? Why would a benevolent God "lead us" into temptation?
But when I go home for Christmas mass, I'm going to say it the normal way, just like I say the old Nicene Creed the normal way, in a fairly booming voice.
I've heard that in Spanish, the prayer says "...don't allow us to fall into temptation..."
Although I wouldn't doubt that the Greek is closer to the original Jewish/Hebrew sentiment about God being in charge of temptation and calamity and heart-hardening.
False Bibliolatrist religions through and through that people make too much of a fuss about.
Bibliolatry is the Letter that Kills [the Spirit].
I suppose that does make sense, doesn't it? Why would a benevolent God "lead us" into temptation?
But when I go home for Christmas mass, I'm going to say it the normal way, just like I say the old Nicene Creed the normal way, in a fairly booming voice.
Why would an all-powerful (meaning he could prevent suffering) God allow suffering? Because, obviously His nature is a bit more complicated than the great one-dimensional Santa Claus in the sky that many see Him as being. I see no conflict with a benevolent God presenting us with -- or, rather, permitting us to encounter -- moral dilemmas and letting us exercise our God-given free will. Again, He didn't create mindless puppets.
Why would an all-powerful (meaning he could prevent suffering) God allow suffering? Because, obviously His nature is a bit more complicated than the great one-dimensional Santa Claus in the sky that many see Him as being. I see no conflict with a benevolent God presenting us with -- or, rather, permitting us to encounter -- moral dilemmas and letting us exercise our God-given free will. Again, He didn't create mindless puppets.
Fine, but that's not the question. That God allows problems and temptations rather than specifically making the problems and temptations IS a good answer to the question.
Why would an all-powerful (meaning he could prevent suffering) God allow suffering? Because, obviously His nature is a bit more complicated than the great one-dimensional Santa Claus in the sky that many see Him as being. I see no conflict with a benevolent God presenting us with -- or, rather, permitting us to encounter -- moral dilemmas and letting us exercise our God-given free will. Again, He didn't create mindless puppets.
Complicated God doing what it wants and is in its nature,
complicated Satan/Mara doing what it wants and is in its nature.
That would excuse both of them equally.
Therefore not that great of an argument nor an excuse.
Your God is merely drawn as not "omni" benevolent. Perhaps you meant to say that your imagined and proposed God is "maxi" benevolent only, like many Muslims will tell me about the one in their imaginations. Then again, you can also lie and say that such a clear, self-evident, and obvious limitation of a God's benevolence is "omni" anyway.
Does an ultimate creator bear ultimate responsibility? The answer is in the only word that occurs twice in that question.
Fine, but that's not the question. That God allows problems and temptations rather than specifically making the problems and temptations IS a good answer to the question.
The same people probably think there would be no evil in the world if there were a benevolent god. Shouldn't we take God at his word? I didn't realize the prayer Jesus left us was up for debate.
I believe what Jesus said was After this manner therefore pray ye...
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