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Old 12-31-2018, 05:41 AM
 
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So the Bibles laws are objective and all man made laws are subjective?

What about "the sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath"?

Isnt that subjective?
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Old 12-31-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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So the Bibles laws are objective and all man made laws are subjective?

What about "the sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath"?

Isnt that subjective?
its boths gran. its not all/nothing, black/white, right/wrong. It just doesn't work that way.

the universe is a series of feedback loops. No negative/positive, no subjective experience = nothing.
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Old 12-31-2018, 06:39 PM
 
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So the Bibles laws are objective and all man made laws are subjective?

What about "the sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath"?

Isnt that subjective?
Why do you believe every command or law in the Bible is objective?
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Old 12-31-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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So the Bibles laws are objective and all man made laws are subjective?

What about "the sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath"?

Isnt that subjective?
Perhaps the Bible laws are also subjective as they are subject towards the adherents of the Bible?

But a more interesting point is, it doesn’t make a difference whether the law is objective or subjective or of Bible or Gita or U.S constitution or Shariah Law or the Jewish law or the Australian law or the Chinese dictatorship and whatnot, because there will always be people in every group of adherents and subjects who may follow, partially follow or not follow the law.

You are fighting more with the collective human nature rather than with someone’s faith and religion.
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Old 12-31-2018, 08:55 PM
 
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Perhaps the Bible laws are also subjective as they are subject towards the adherents of the Bible?

But a more interesting point is, it doesn’t make a difference whether the law is objective or subjective or of Bible or Gita or U.S constitution or Shariah Law or the Jewish law or the Australian law or the Chinese dictatorship and whatnot, because there will always be people in every group of adherents and subjects who may follow, partially follow or not follow the law.

You are fighting more with the collective human nature rather than with someone’s faith and religion.
It's more of a question of context. It really is.
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Old 01-02-2019, 03:33 PM
 
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https://www.openbible.info/topics/laws_of_man


Romans 13:1-14 ESV /



Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...


This is why The Bible Project is basically instilling slavery in humans, keeping carrot of "reward in the afterlife" in front of the donkey. Obey now, (maybe) get reward after you die.

Last edited by mensaguy; 01-02-2019 at 04:08 PM.. Reason: Don't use red text.
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Old 01-04-2019, 03:03 AM
 
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The scriptures of the Bible are subjective: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:2 Tim 3:16

The doctrine of Christ is objective: No man comes to Son except the Father who sent him draws him. For no man comes to God but by faith. TThus, no man comes to the Father except throught the Son. For he that cometh to God must believe he is, and is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. For you are saved by hope: 2 John 9
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