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Old 02-24-2019, 09:26 AM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 10 days ago)
 
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This just crossed my facebook feed. Perfect. I love this, so well said.

https://www.facebook.com/StPetersEpi...p&__tn__=EHH-R
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Old 02-24-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Hmmmm….so if it's up to us humans, what's the point of praying?

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I have been asking that question for five decades.

In re Clara's Facebook post...Millions of people have been praying for peace and justice for hundreds of years. He hears those prayers? And yet we don't have peace and justice.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I have been asking that question for five decades.

In re Clara's Facebook post...Millions of people have been praying for peace and justice for hundreds of years. He hears those prayers? And yet we don't have peace and justice.
Well, you know, sometimes the answer is Maybe, Not Yet or just plain No .

So I'd guess ya' just keep praying but with your fingers crossed and holding onto your lucky rabbits foot.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Well, you know, sometimes the answer is Maybe, Not Yet or just plain No .

So I'd guess ya' just keep praying but with your fingers crossed and holding onto your lucky rabbits foot.
Exactly. It gets down to the "Well god works in mysterious ways" excuse.
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Old 02-24-2019, 11:22 AM
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I have been asking that question for five decades.

In re Clara's Facebook post...Millions of people have been praying for peace and justice for hundreds of years. He hears those prayers? And yet we don't have peace and justice.
If they were praying with their hands and feet, and working toward peace, then maybe?

As they say, God doesn't call the equipped. He equips the called.

So if you're doing the work of the Lord, expect miracles to accompany your efforts.

Sitting in a church and praying fervently for peace is probably not going to be successful. Praying for guidance and help with creating peace is very, very likely to be effective.

In my experience, when I'm trying to do the Lord's work, doors open. Supplies arrive.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Exactly. It gets down to the "Well god works in mysterious ways" excuse.
I don't see one thing that happens in this world...call it God if you want, that is mysterious in any way;
the good, the bad, or the ugly.

Trump being elected gave me pause, I must say...then it was all clear.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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I'm not sure I've ever read anything quite that arrogant in my life.

If I wrote out my experiences here, which I'm not going to do because these are intimate and special to me and I'm not stupid enough to be that vulnerable, I think every single person here would at the very least, say "well, I do understand now why you believe".

edited to add: I'm not completely sure about Allah, at all. I'm not a religious historian, although I know Muslims believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth and his brother John the Baptist. As I understand it, they believe John was the more powerful and gifted prophet, and Jesus the lesser, although they have great reverence for him. I don't know where Allah comes from, exactly, and their tradition, and what they expect from Allah.
Oh I'm sorry, was the truth of what I said too much for you? Were your religious beliefs offended? Were your "special and intimate" beliefs offended? Address the reasons why the Muslim prayers are getting answered and the other groups. Every religious person I bet thinks their beliefs are intimate and personal. That doesn't mean they are rooted in reality outside your brain.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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If they were praying with their hands and feet, and working toward peace, then maybe? If everybody is getting it done through human efforts, god's out of the equation

As they say, God doesn't call the equipped. He equips the called. A silly cliche

So if you're doing the work of the Lord, expect miracles to accompany your efforts. I'm almost 70. Haven't seen a miracle yet

Sitting in a church and praying fervently for peace is probably not going to be successful. Praying for guidance and help with creating peace is very, very likely to be effective. What did you do today (or this year) to achieve world peace?

In my experience, when I'm trying to do the Lord's work, doors open. Supplies arrive.
My answers above
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:12 PM
 
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This just crossed my facebook feed. Perfect. I love this, so well said.

https://www.facebook.com/StPetersEpi...p&__tn__=EHH-R
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:13 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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This just crossed my facebook feed. Perfect. I love this, so well said.

https://www.facebook.com/StPetersEpi...p&__tn__=EHH-R


We can hope.
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