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Old 02-27-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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Wow. Touched a nerve, did I?

I suppose you don't believe in warning a kid about things like a hot stove, busy streets, and mean dogs, either? I know those might scare the kid. But we can also teach people how to deal with unpleasant things and how to be saved from them.
Are those topics (hot stoves, busy streets and mean dogs) discussed extensively in the Bible?
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Wow. Touched a nerve, did I?

I suppose you don't believe in warning a kid about things like a hot stove, busy streets, and mean dogs, either? I know those might scare the kid. But we can also teach people how to deal with unpleasant things and how to be saved from them.
...and let them walk right over the edge of the earth too!
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Wow. Touched a nerve, did I?

I suppose you don't believe in warning a kid about things like a hot stove, busy streets, and mean dogs, either? I know those might scare the kid. But we can also teach people how to deal with unpleasant things and how to be saved from them.
"Warning" a child that they will go to hell if they don't believe what they don't believe is just plain meanness. What normstad's daughter needs to warn her boy about is mean people who tell children scary things that aren't true.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:20 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Wow. Touched a nerve, did I?

I suppose you don't believe in warning a kid about things like a hot stove, busy streets, and mean dogs, either? I know those might scare the kid. But we can also teach people how to deal with unpleasant things and how to be saved from them.
Stoves, streets, and dogs are all real. It makes sense to teach children that a stove which is hot, a street which is busy, or a dog which is mean can be harmful. Hell is imaginary, and thus cannot harm anyone.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Stoves, streets, and dogs are all real. It makes sense to teach children that a stove which is hot, a street which is busy, or a dog which is mean can be harmful. Hell is imaginary, and thus cannot harm anyone.
Fundies aren't invested in reality. Their wee world is bound between the covers of a mouldy old book.
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Old 02-27-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Fundies aren't invested in reality. Their wee world is bound between the covers of a mouldy old book.
I just had a picture of me reading Narnia...I was in a wee world bound between the covers of an old book! Yes. I loved that world. I was happy in that world.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I just had a picture of me reading Narnia...I was in a wee world bound between the covers of an old book! Yes. I loved that world. I was happy in that world.
I enjoyed that series too. I think reading it helped make me a better person.

I've yet to meet a fundie who's a better person because of reading the bible.
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Old 02-27-2019, 10:43 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Whether or not it's actually true. Because I won't know, as no one knows for sure, in this life whether it's true.
This is basically Pascal's Wager. Generally speaking, Christian theologians have taken a pretty frowny stance on it.
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Old 02-28-2019, 03:24 AM
 
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I enjoyed that series too. I think reading it helped make me a better person.

I've yet to meet a fundie who's a better person because of reading the bible.
I read that series as well. It was my escape from the religious world of fear and enablers. I still don't know who slipped that first book in my drawer which transformed my 11 year old self.
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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Wow. Touched a nerve, did I?

I suppose you don't believe in warning a kid about things like a hot stove, busy streets, and mean dogs, either? I know those might scare the kid. But we can also teach people how to deal with unpleasant things and how to be saved from them.
I don't know if you touched a nerve, but you definitely failed in reaching for that analogy. Hot stoves, busy streets and mean dogs are all real, and it helps keep a child safe to know about them, and know how to deal with them. Hell, OTOH, is a man-made concept... constructed to keep people in line, force them to lead good lives, explain the unexplainable, whatever. Hell has no basis in reality, and no reason to be dealt with. Apples to oranges.

[ETA: Sorry, I hadn't seen Petunia's reply, which said the same thing. But will let this stand as reinforcement. It's a crappy, disingenuous analogy.]
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