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Old 02-19-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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All fundamentalist crazies who teach children this kind of crap should be lined up against a wall and.........tickled till they pee their pants. Well, what did you think I was going to say??????

I might do a thread about how Christianity has ruined and destroyed more lives than all the biological plagues ever visited on mankind.
Good idea. Looking forward to it.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:46 AM
 
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It happened to my daughter. After a discussion about whether or not to believe everything we hear, we have a discussion about the company we keep. Be fun to play with, get invited to our home. Be boring or use scare tactics, find other people to hang out with.

I wouldn't necessarily blame it on Christianity but rather the culture of using fear and punishment to control the behavior of others.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:58 AM
 
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Atheists are so dismissive of the psychological reasons for why people believe the things that they do. This is a complex matter which they always try to simplify. When something like this happens, they are no less at fault than the person who indoctrinated the child, or whatever person was indoctrinated. They are as much a part of society as anyone else. The fact that they are in such denial, are so blind, even suggests that they may be more at fault than the average citizen.
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:42 AM
 
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Atheists are so dismissive of the psychological reasons for why people believe the things that they do. This is a complex matter which they always try to simplify. When something like this happens, they are no less at fault than the person who indoctrinated the child, or whatever person was indoctrinated. They are as much a part of society as anyone else. The fact that they are in such denial, are so blind, even suggests that they may be more at fault than the average citizen.
There are points I agree with. However, dismissiveness is not a defining characteristic of atheists. It can be found anywhere. Though I understand why you are addressing it to them in a thread that targets Christians.
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:06 AM
 
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There are points I agree with. However, dismissiveness is not a defining characteristic of atheists. It can be found anywhere. Though I understand why you are addressing it to them in a thread that targets Christians.
yup ...

siding with "deny everything to save theist" is as wrong as "jesus saves the unbeliever that converts".
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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Atheists are so dismissive of the psychological reasons for why people believe the things that they do. This is a complex matter which they always try to simplify. When something like this happens, they are no less at fault than the person who indoctrinated the child, or whatever person was indoctrinated. They are as much a part of society as anyone else. The fact that they are in such denial, are so blind, even suggests that they may be more at fault than the average citizen.
So, the fact, and it IS a fact, that the religious indoctrinate their impressionable children, equates to those that are harmed by that propaganda? Blame the victim mentality?

No, it is no the same. The parents who have implanted this aura of fear and terror if a child does not "believe in their god" have, at the very least, the responsibility that the child does not prothleysis.

Of course, that last statement is the antithesis of what many religions believe and practice. And that is why these terror tactics, especially one of a religion that essentially is a doomsday cult when it is at its most fundamentalist, can never be accepted, I won't accept them, and I will call them out whenever and wherever they occur. Especially when children are affected, and even more when MY grandchild is terrorized by the teachings of zealots.

Am I angry? You bet! Don't even start blaming the victim!
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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Lawd. Let the child's parents (looks like they handled it well) deal with it & butt out.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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Lawd. Let the child's parents (looks like they handled it well) deal with it & butt out.
No. Not butt out.

Yes, the parents did the right thing. But that is not the issue. The issue is that the apoplectic cult that christianity is indoctrinates their children into believing the terror they would face if they do not follow the beliefs of the adults. Quit indoctrinating your children with scare tactics! The impact it has on them an others is unconscionable.

How can you, or anyone else, support the continuation of instilling this hateful, terror based, mythological propaganda in children?

I don't care if adults want to delusion themselves in this stuff. I care, and really, really, really care when my grandson cries himself to sleep in terror because it is disseminated to him, unwittingly and not out of malice, but other children.

Just stop indoctrinating your children in mythology as reality. Stop! You have no idea the harm you are doing to them and others. Just stop!
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Atheists are so dismissive of the psychological reasons for why people believe the things that they do. This is a complex matter which they always try to simplify. When something like this happens, they are no less at fault than the person who indoctrinated the child, or whatever person was indoctrinated. They are as much a part of society as anyone else. The fact that they are in such denial, are so blind, even suggests that they may be more at fault than the average citizen.
Actually, as usual, you've got it exactly backward. We are very aware of the psychological reasons why people believe the things that they do. And we think it's inane when those psychological reasons obliviate reality.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Lawd. Let the child's parents (looks like they handled it well) deal with it & butt out.
Lawd, this is just a discussion on a forum. None of us is rushing into anyone's home to intervene.
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