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Old 09-10-2019, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I figured as much. And it is a major stumbling block for a lot of nonbelievers.
And your belief helps explain why so many christian churches supported actual slavery.
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:12 PM
 
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You both beat me to it


Pathetic response.
He's doing the best he can do.
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:16 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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He's doing the best he can do.
Thank you. Yes, he is. It's all he can do. painted, effectively, into an inescapable corner. One either cherry -picks and says that Jesus 'changed' all bits they don't like in the OT (which leaves us arguing about the immorality in the NT) or bites the Bullet and swallows all the OT, Good, Bad and appalling using the 'God can do what he likes' argument. If those 6,000 need a reason to walk away from Church, that's a start.
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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And your belief helps explain why so many christian churches supported actual slavery.
Does it tell you why Christians were the ones that opposed it? That because of Christianity slavery was eventually outlawed? Or are you too biased for that?
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Thank you. Yes, he is. It's all he can do. painted, effectively, into an inescapable corner. One either cherry -picks and says that Jesus 'changed' all bits they don't like in the OT (which leaves us arguing about the immorality in the NT) or bites the Bullet and swallows all the OT, Good, Bad and appalling using the 'God can do what he likes' argument. If those 6,000 need a reason to walk away from Church, that's a start.

What is it that you really want? And what 6000 you talking about?
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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Does it tell you why Christians were the ones that opposed it? That because of Christianity slavery was eventually outlawed? Or are you too biased for that?
Some christians opposed, but not much in the South Are you too biased for that? And as far outlawing it -- it took a war of christians fighting christians to accomplish that -- still the biggest blood bath in American history. Thanks for owning it.
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Some christians opposed, but not much in the South Are you too biased for that? And as far outlawing it -- it took a war of christians fighting christians to accomplish that -- still the biggest blood bath in American history. Thanks for owning it.
You're right. Many Christians did support it. And many opposed it. But to suggest that Christianity supports the idea of slavery is simply ignorant.
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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You're right. Many Christians did support it. And many opposed it. But to suggest that Christianity supports the idea of slavery is simply ignorant.
I suggest you look at various oath statements of the Ku Klux Klan.

Or, how do you explain that several major churches have apologized or "atoned" for their role in slavery and racism? The churches were the leaders.

https://www.thoughtco.com/christian-...church-2834588
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:54 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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You're right. Many Christians did support it. And many opposed it. But to suggest that Christianity supports the idea of slavery is simply ignorant.
He didn't say Christianity supports slavery. He said it supported slavery. Past tense.
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Old 09-10-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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He didn't say Christianity supports slavery. He said it supported slavery. Past tense.
And that would be factually wrong. At least not the slavery of 1800's America.
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