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Old 10-16-2020, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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I see the battle rages on.
Any comments?
Mine would be -

Those that think God punishes for picking corn on the Sabbath base that on the Bible only.

People that think God is Pure Love, may read the Bible, but with a grain of salt, since they
have had a direct, personal exp of God, so base their belief on that.
I could be wrong.
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:57 AM
 
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I see the battle rages on.
Any comments?
Mine would be -

Those that think God punishes for picking corn on the Sabbath base that on the Bible only.

People that think God is Pure Love, may read the Bible, but with a grain of salt, since they
have had a direct, personal exp of God, so base their belief on that.
I could be wrong.
What if my direct personal experience of God is different than the "Pure Love" group?
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:03 AM
 
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What if my direct personal experience of God is different than the "Pure Love" group?
Then you will reject Jesus's revelations and unambiguous demonstration of God's true nature as agape love. That should cause you some concern and motivate you to reexamine your experience or its source.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:11 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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What if my direct personal experience of God is different than the "Pure Love" group?
Then we get an insight into how your brain works. We goddless bastards have long been aware that Agape Love (or various equivalent epithets) do not give much evidence of being at all lovely.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:13 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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Love contains mercy; punishment does not. Good discipline is corrective and not punitive.

Here's a song for no particular reason:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sILwvJShMV8
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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What if my direct personal experience of God is different than the "Pure Love" group?
Is it?
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:21 AM
 
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How can God be love mankind if he's going to torture most of mankind where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. That's not really love.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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What if my direct personal experience of God is different than the "Pure Love" group?
Which goes back to a question I asked you yesterday. How exactly do we know which christians are right?
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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Is it?
Well, considering that the 2 above that have already affirmed it and made rude statements about me tend to believe stuff that would have probably resulted in them being called heretics 1800 years ago by a church council....

I'll stick with what Scripture says instead.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:37 AM
 
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I see the battle rages on.
Any comments?
Mine would be -

Those that think God punishes for picking corn on the Sabbath base that on the Bible only.

People that think God is Pure Love, may read the Bible, but with a grain of salt, since they
have had a direct, personal exp of God, so base their belief on that.
I could be wrong.
I'm pretty sure anyone who believes they have had "a direct, personal exp of God" is going to base their belief on that. Otherwise, what anyone believes along these lines and why needs to be explained by those who have not had such an experience people.

Accordingly, either God punishes for petty things or God is pure or no doubt there are other options to choose from, depending on one's experience (or lack thereof). The petty details all depend on what is most worthy to consider and believe in the first place, or we're just wasting our time wondering about petty details that don't even apply. I'm inclined to think your question has us doing just that...
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