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Let me ask you this, it is said that war is deceit. If that is so, then the winner of a war based on that, would be the biggest deceiver. Who can only stand on a rotting and corrupt foundation as some perceived victory. Would you say that is correct ?
If you kill the truth, what do you have left to look too.
I read OP and its title about six times.
Can someone explain to me logical connection between the two and what Op is trying to say, actually?
Khalif, where are you?
Let me ask you this, it is said that war is deceit. If that is so, then the winner of a war based on that, would be the biggest deceiver. Who can only stand on a rotting and corrupt foundation as some perceived victory. Would you say that is correct ?
If you kill the truth, what do you have left to look too.
when some one want to steal a country by war
don't you think that the people of that country has right to defend their country by any ability they have even by trick?
let alone there is no logical connection with OP.
Last edited by mensaguy; 08-10-2021 at 04:31 AM..
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I read OP and its title about six times.
Can someone explain to me logical connection between the two and what Op is trying to say, actually?
Khalif, where are you?
I know that the Qur’an is one of the attributes of Allah, like His Eye, His Hand and so on,
and that it is the word of Allah in a real sense,
that was sent down to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) through Jibreel (peace be upon him),
and that the Qur’an is not created. But what is meant by that? Does .... https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2274...is-not-created
when some one want to steal a country by war
don't you think that the people of that country has right to defend their country by any ability they have even by trick?
let alone there is no logical connection with OP.
I look at a land that is there for all, the Garden of Eden, where the first inhabitants dwelled in all together living goodness. Where an outside deceiver came in to steal the word that was given to them and spread his influence upon them. And nature changed as a result of that.
Which is why all the deceit in this world is getting old to me. I know that living truth by its nature wins out in its time and is not something that can be hidden from.
Your username is truth_teller, so I was responding according to that.
I learn truth, knowing that the truth that is against me is just as important to accept as the truth that is for me, because it is one and the same, and not divided in end result, because it is One from the start.
I look at a land that is there for all, the Garden of Eden, where the first inhabitants dwelled in all together living goodness. Where an outside deceiver came in to steal the word that was given to them and spread his influence upon them. And nature changed as a result of that.
Which is why all the deceit in this world is getting old to me. I know that living truth by its nature wins out in its time and is not something that can be hidden from.
Your username is truth_teller, so I was responding according to that.
I learn truth, knowing that the truth that is against me is just as important to accept as the truth that is for me, because it is one and the same, and not divided in end result, because it is One from the start.
The real question is, why was this deceiver allowed to enter the garden of Eden and do what he did...
As parents, do you 'test' your young children by introducing someone that means them harm? Of course not...you test/teach them in ways that DO NOT cause harm, but so they still learn the lesson.
I'm curious why this thread is here instead of in the Islam forum. It appears to only be relevant to Islam.
I agree with your remarks and my justification to have this thread here is
this is a religious thread ,
and the title of this forum contains the name religion
and I wanted to share this knowledge with non Muslim
it might impact them positively.
when this issue started many Muslim scholars where put in jail and whipped to force them to say that the Quran is created
and all of them except one could not resist the pain any more and accepted to say the Quran is created
and because of that one the creed of the religion reached us correctly.
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