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I've given you evidence. Repeatedly. And you come back with the same questions. And the same rhetoric. If you were genuinely interested in learning, great. But all I see is a failed attempt at mockery.
Haha, Uh no, you did not. All you did was respond by saying "No, he didn't" fail. And then you just disappeared from my follow up questions. Nice try though.
He's not beholden to me. He is beholden to everyone that doesn't believe in the Christian version of God. Which is many people throughout history. Billions of people. Lets face it. What we have here is called BLIND FAITH. Why can't religious people just admit that their religion is strictly based on blind faith? You keep saying there is evidence for this Christian God of yours but you have repeatedly failed at showing this kind of God actually exists.
Exhibit one: Creation. Until you can tell me how we got here, this universe got here without a creator, I'll believe in a creator.
As for him being beholden to you or anyone else? He's God. By his nature he is superior and is above all. Including you.
As I told MQ, Christians believe salvation is already determined. We know God loves us and he has promised he won't lose us. He is not looking for a reason to punish us.
If it's determined then you have no free will.
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Having said that, do you have kids? Did you teach them about Santa Claus? About the man hiding and watching them and putting them on a naughty or nice list? Amazing how the secular projects their silly beliefs on Christians. We aren't the ones claiming God keeps tabs.
yes, I teach my kids about Santa Claus because it's FUN for them. It doesn't determine how they should live in fear from an invisible deity all their lives like fundamentalist Christianity does.
Exhibit one: Creation. Until you can tell me how we got here, this universe got here without a creator, I'll believe in a creator.
Creation is not evidence the Christian God exists. There could still have been a creator that exists that does not interfere with this world.
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As for him being beholden to you or anyone else? He's God. By his nature he is superior and is above all. Including you.
So why does he pick and choose who to reveal himself to? The Christian God somehow has revealed himself to you but the billions throughout history some how he didn't reach out to them. You must be super special.
yes, I teach my kids about Santa Claus because it's FUN for them. It doesn't determine how they should live in fear from an invisible deity all their lives like fundamentalist Christianity does.
So you teach them about a creepy fat guy in a red suit putting them on either a naughty or nice list, and you have the nerve to suggest that we teach a god that is basically that.
Creation is not evidence the Christian God exists. There could still have been a creator that exists that does not interfere with this world.
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So why does he pick and choose who to reveal himself to? The Christian God somehow has revealed himself to you but the billions throughout history some how he didn't reach out to them. You must be super special.
God HAS revealed himself to the world through his creation.
And the vast majority of humans throughout history have chosen to ignore him and do their own thing.
I'm a Pantheist...everyone has heard of, and observed, the God (ALL) I perceive.
4 out of 5 are Theist...they Believe in the existence of a God Entity.
Your argument makes no sense.
1st you complain about, "all the misery their master has wreaked on mankind over the hundreds of thousands of years of man's existence."
Then you say, "Of course, it is all a Fairy Tale".
So...which one is it?
Come on now. You know perfectly well the way this goes.
We can postulate from one of at least two possibilities. It's called postulation.
You have no reason to believe in a creator other than what else could it be. Now get back to your goat herd.
Yes. There are 2 choices. Either it WAS created by a creator, or it was not. Disprove one, and the other is the one we have to believe.
Since we know the universe could not have come into existence without being created, then we have to believe there was a creator. It's simple, really. You disagree? Show me how it came about.
Exhibit one: Creation. Until you can tell me how we got here, this universe got here without a creator, I'll believe in a creator.
As for him being beholden to you or anyone else? He's God. By his nature he is superior and is above all. Including you.
Creation is not evidence that your deity Created it. But we are here now and we can say somethings about what we see around us. The trait of omni powered doesn't seem to fit. In fact, you can make some of the traits of god fit/match observation by saying he can't change the rules he set into motion. Problem solved.
In fact, doing that would make some denials go away.
So why do you hold onto the need for "omni powered" when that doesn't match what we see?
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If it's determined then you have no free will.
