The problem with ‘Atheist Activism.” (America, Islam, quote)
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Allow the person some time to self-reflect without doing much more?
That is one of the reasons I don't immediately pick a side and when I do, it is in support of the concept rather than the person. Though this can be a problem when it comes to the appearance of loyalty.
Not that. Since this is a 'problem' with atheist activism - not so much the 'boys' club - women atheists are wanted and as spokespersons, too, the more the merrier, but the problem of women feeling safe in gatherings and this or that male hitting on them. When I say I don't know what to do about that, I'm not excusing anybody, or dismissing the problem, but apart from exterminating the male sex (which might be the answer some may be looking for) I really don't know how to fix Instinct.
Not that. Since this is a 'problem' with atheist activism - not so much the 'boys' club - women atheists are wanted and as spokespersons, too, the more the merrier, but the problem of women feeling safe in gatherings and this or that male hitting on them. When I say I don't know what to do about that, I'm not excusing anybody, or dismissing the problem, but apart from exterminating the male sex (which might be the answer some may be looking for) I really don't know how to fix Instinct.
First by getting organized, become members. By demanding the organizations that represent atheists, and has a public voice, are more proactive in support of women, and minorities, and their rights. Ensure they have more women, and minorities, on their board or organizational structure. Be more vocal about sexism and racism and speak out against it in definitive terms, not wishywashy. When an atheist with recognized stature, has a public presence, says something racist or sexist, call them out, that is not what Atheism is about. Be loud and clear about human rights.
If this sounds political, aren't atheists political? Do they want a voice in how public money, their taxes, are spent? Do they want the public square free of religious paraphernalia? That is politics. Is this liberal leanings? Yes.
And stop picking on religion, especially Islam, and talk about people and their safety. Recognize religion has a place in people's lives and they need it. Religious freedom works both ways and like it or not Atheism is recognized as religion and thus has the same freedom.
Allow the person some time to self-reflect without doing much more?
That is one of the reasons I don't immediately pick a side and when I do, it is in support of the concept rather than the person. Though this can be a problem when it comes to the appearance of loyalty.
Exactly. Thats when one could look like traitors.
Use reason, logic, and commonsense to form a belief. If it is consistent with observation then it may be reasonable and there most certainty can be more than one answer.
That is the concept.
"Blind faith", on the other hand see questioning in full as divisive and counter productive.
Then we move on toi putting actual claims in to see who is actually trying to do what. It has been my experience, That when the name calling starts. "you're a traitor."
First by getting organized, become members. By demanding the organizations that represent atheists, and has a public voice, are more proactive in support of women, and minorities, and their rights. Ensure they have more women, and minorities, on their board or organizational structure. Be more vocal about sexism and racism and speak out against it in definitive terms, not wishywashy. When an atheist with recognized stature, has a public presence, says something racist or sexist, call them out, that is not what Atheism is about. Be loud and clear about human rights.
If this sounds political, aren't atheists political? Do they want a voice in how public money, their taxes, are spent? Do they want the public square free of religious paraphernalia? That is politics. Is this liberal leanings? Yes.
And stop picking on religion, especially Islam, and talk about people and their safety. Recognize religion has a place in people's lives and they need it. Religious freedom works both ways and like it or not Atheism is recognized as religion and thus has the same freedom.
The first big step is openess and honesty. Dumping notions that speak to ..
" ... Sortagod cannot be allowed to pass through inattention or being worn down with constant nagging, because it hands theism the logical default for free. Without their having to produce anything but fallacious arguments."
If beliefs are consistent with observation, let them pass. People using religion as a weapon is a diferent matter all to together.
First by getting organized, become members. By demanding the organizations that represent atheists, and has a public voice, are more proactive in support of women, and minorities, and their rights. Ensure they have more women, and minorities, on their board or organizational structure. Be more vocal about sexism and racism and speak out against it in definitive terms, not wishywashy. When an atheist with recognized stature, has a public presence, says something racist or sexist, call them out, that is not what Atheism is about. Be loud and clear about human rights.
If this sounds political, aren't atheists political? Do they want a voice in how public money, their taxes, are spent? Do they want the public square free of religious paraphernalia? That is politics. Is this liberal leanings? Yes.
And stop picking on religion, especially Islam, and talk about people and their safety. Recognize religion has a place in people's lives and they need it. Religious freedom works both ways and like it or not Atheism is recognized as religion and thus has the same freedom.
Why should we stop talking about religion when you constantly talk about religion?
First by getting organized, become members. By demanding the organizations that represent atheists, and has a public voice, are more proactive in support of women, and minorities, and their rights. Ensure they have more women, and minorities, on their board or organizational structure. Be more vocal about sexism and racism and speak out against it in definitive terms, not wishywashy. When an atheist with recognized stature, has a public presence, says something racist or sexist, call them out, that is not what Atheism is about. Be loud and clear about human rights.
If this sounds political, aren't atheists political? Do they want a voice in how public money, their taxes, are spent? Do they want the public square free of religious paraphernalia? That is politics. Is this liberal leanings? Yes.
And stop picking on religion, especially Islam, and talk about people and their safety. Recognize religion has a place in people's lives and they need it. Religious freedom works both ways and like it or not Atheism is recognized as religion and thus has the same freedom.
First, the vast majority of atheists are not interested in joining organizations [of atheists]. Second, there are no organizations that represent atheists.
The organizations that do exist only represent their members, and do not represent the other 99%+ that do not join any of those organizations.
I can't imagine how you could compel anyone to join any of those organizations.
Why should an organization, whose purpose is to represent people who d not believe in God, take a stand on safety?
First, the vast majority of atheists are not interested in joining organizations [of atheists]. Second, there are no organizations that represent atheists.
The organizations that do exist only represent their members, and do not represent the other 99%+ that do not join any of those organizations.
I can't imagine how you could compel anyone to join any of those organizations.
Why should an organization, whose purpose is to represent people who d not believe in God, take a stand on safety?
I was merely responding to Transponder’s post asking what can be done about the bad image created by a few. Nobody needs to do anything of course but there is power in numbers if one is concerned about creating a positive image for a group of people.
Why should we stop talking about religion when you constantly talk about religion?
nothing, you can talk about your religion all you want. I have often said atheism isn't a religion but we have a ton of atheist that treat it like one.
I was merely responding to Transponder’s post asking what can be done about the bad image created by a few. Nobody needs to do anything of course but there is power in numbers if one is concerned about creating a positive image for a group of people.
Even so, you did refer to organizations that represent atheists. Why did you say that when you've been told before that those organizations only represent a tiny fraction oa atheists?
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