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Old 04-05-2021, 03:29 PM
 
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A loving father doesn't inflict fatal diseases on his children, no matter who the father and who the children is/are.
That is not the question salty.

We have what we see going on around us. That, you say, is important to you.

So how could a loving god create the things we see around us and still be classified as loving. There is more than one way.
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Old 04-05-2021, 03:29 PM
 
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Because the weak must be culled.
we have a choice. it is our evil consciousness needs fixing.
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Old 04-05-2021, 03:34 PM
 
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But the question is about the physical world, which some claim was created by an all-powerful divine being.
it is evolution of consciousness, step by step , understanding what the divine being meant by creation.
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Old 04-05-2021, 03:34 PM
 
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Taken as the totality that it is, including us sentient creatures, that would seem inescapable except for those who can only perceive it as separate entities.
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I don't see any reason to think so.
That would be because we have learned to perceive all of Nature as separate and discreet phenomena instead of as a single inscrutable entity we just give the name Nature to. But our perceptual limitations do NOT determine its actual status.
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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That is not the question salty.

We have what we see going on around us. That, you say, is important to you.

So how could a loving god create the things we see around us and still be classified as loving. There is more than one way.
You've uncovered another layer of he onion. Thanks for the support.
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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Because the weak must be culled.
Why would god create weak ones.
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:07 PM
 
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Why would god create weak ones.
He didn't, but immaturity and the need to mature are built into life. That immaturity is mistakenly considered a weakness.
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Old 04-05-2021, 05:30 PM
 
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It's not that I "missed it", it's that I read the OP. May I suggest you do the same, paying careful attention to the last paragraph?
The task was, "Come up with a reasonable, logical sound explanation for these circumstances that comports with dogma."
And I gave it...straight from Biblical dogma. If the Bible is taken literally.
Biblical dogma tells us that Gods thoughts and ways are above ours, and not to question what God does.
So...if one takes the Bible literally...and claims a Omnimax God that is all-loving, then created people that would suffer...you would also have to accept that the Bible says it is good to suffer, and anything God does is loving. Even if our inferior thoughts and ways can't figure out how that could be.

Galatians 5:22, “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,”

God knows how that could be...we don't. Biblical dogma tells us that.
A literal interpretation of Biblical dogma informs us of that...and that's the part y'all musta missed.
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Old 04-05-2021, 05:51 PM
 
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Why would god create weak ones.
so strong could protect weak.
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Old 04-05-2021, 05:54 PM
 
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You've uncovered another layer of he onion. Thanks for the support.
Lets face it salty. Its a simple question that exposes intentions. You chose not to answer it. Maybe you would DM telling me why you have to avoid it. Maybe I will buy into the tactic.

It does show one thing. Atheism and theism have the exact same type of people in them. Avoid anything that challenges a statement of belief about god.
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