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Old 06-28-2009, 12:31 AM
 
Location: USA
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No, this is not "the typical Christian attitude regarding firearms". What's kinda sad is that so many people, like the OP, are so ignorant that they confuse regional cultural behavior with religious attitudes and then make ignorant remarks because of their confusion. You won't see prevailing attitudes towards firearms like that mentioned in the article in New Jersey like you would in a place like, say, Western Canada (Calgary Stampede anyone?).

You need to read the Constitution. The Constitution is the Law.
No one made ignorant remarks here at all. They know the Law.
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:33 AM
 
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dear op!

i do not know about the u.s. but about another country i once lived in. certain churches stipulate that people not carry guns there.

after a while of attending services, you get to see a lot of men carrying guns (awesome sight, awesome insight 't was to me..

and then, i am not sure if the rcc and lutheran churches (here in germany) sending their priests and pastors to service in the armed forces, still bless weapons....

and still, in germany, there are jewish communities, which need to hire special security for their synagogues and schools. sorry to say: what a shame, and not for them!


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Old 06-28-2009, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Southern NC
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You need to read the Constitution. The Constitution is the Law.
No one made ignorant remarks here at all. They know the Law.
yes...and isn't that law convenient for "those" types of Christians....
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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There are certain legal restrictions already in place regarding where guns may be carried and I'm not sure how those laws would apply if the guns were unloaded. I know that it's illegal in places that serve alcohol like bars and night clubs which seems to make alot of sense. Instead of a bar room brawl you could have a bar room massacre if everybody had a gun and then got into a drunken argument. They're also not allowed in schools although security is getting tighter after so many school shootings.
I don't have a very high regard for the NRA. They've taken a very extreme stand in which they support the right an individual to have weapons that belong in a battlefield and have no legitimate purpose in civilian life.
This church sounds like a bunch of far right extremists and they've even got these militia groups supporting them so that strikes me as something very unChristian and inappropriate in a church.
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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I have a federal license to carry a concealed weapon anywhere in the United States.
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I have a federal license to carry a concealed weapon anywhere in the United States.
Be that as it may, does federal law give you the right to bring a gun to a place of peace (or a place of worship)?

BTW does federal law also give you the right to bring a gun to another man's private property?
Even when he has made it clear that guns are not welcome on his land or in his house?
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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Originally Posted by ptsum Be that as it may, does federal law give you the right to bring a gun to a place of peace (or a place of worship)?

BTW does federal law also give you the right to bring a gun to another man's private property?
Even when he has made it clear that guns are not welcome on his land or in his house?
Federal law supersedes any state law in this country and I realize that you don't live in this country and yes it permits me to carry a concealed firearm anywhere,however I do use discretion and in some cases I will not carry it but will have it locked in my vehicle where I can have access to it if need be. I also understand that just because I do have a permit to do so,there is also the responsibility that goes along with it.By the way my permit is issued by the US Federal Marshals.
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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Federal law supersedes any state law in this country and I realize that you don't live in this country and yes it permits me to carry a concealed firearm anywhere,however I do use discretion and in some cases I will not carry it but will have it locked in my vehicle where I can have access to it if need be. I also understand that just because I do have a permit to do so,there is also the responsibility that goes along with it.By the way my permit is issued by the US Federal Marshals.

You have that right. You should show discretion--and that's up to you. I absolutely agree with you here and anyone that tells you that you don't have a right to do is simply wrong.

Having said that, if a church specifically asks you not to carry it in you should respect that.
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I also understand that just because I do have a permit to do so,there is also the responsibility that goes along with it.
That is a good thing.
I would find it inconsiderate to insist on carrying guns into a place of worship where peace and non-violent resistance is an integral part of its philosophy.
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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You have that right. You should show discretion--and that's up to you. I absolutely agree with you here and anyone that tells you that you don't have a right to do is simply wrong.

Having said that, if a church specifically asks you not to carry it in you should respect that.
And that's what the responsibility of that permit is, having the discretion and responsibility of knowing when to carry it and when not to and even though I'm not a Christian I would not carry my weapon into a house of worship regardless of what religion it is, out of respect, unless asked otherwise.
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