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Old 07-23-2009, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Egypt
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This woman sounds potentially confused, but different people mean different things by "secularism."

Secularism can mean that politicians are forbidden from having their policies be influenced by religion and religious expression is forbidden in the public sphere. It is possible to oppose that without wanting religious law.

So someone who deems themselves opposed to both could say that

A) Laws should not be based in religion, but
B) Religion can be a influence in supporting or opposing a policy, just as philosophy or income-class can influence those things.
Well said, I think you understand her well, although i do not agree,

The problem of secularism is that it gives politicians the freedom to make unmoral laws, thus making the society decent in morals and distance themselves for the nature God made them, so it gives persons the freedom to openly make moral crimes rather than making them in secret, and thus infecting the whole society.

On the other hand, the problem of radical religious persons is that they oppose any other opinion than theirs even if this opinion is also based on respected views from their fellow religious person who embrace the same religion.

The solution in my opinion is the moderates' religious persons in each religion, and particularly Islam as I'm a Muslim.

Persons who can take the moral ethics of their religion, and then they are open minded to other respected opinions that do not contradict with the basics.

And also they are in the good side of their religion respecting the free will of embracing any religion.

In my opinion Islam does not agree with secularism, but equally it does not agree with radical close minded way of understanding religion.


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Old 05-04-2010, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Metromess
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Well, I guess that means you hate me then. I'm all broken up about it, too. I actually like some Christians.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:01 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default Why do some people hate secularism?

Because they're told to.

A guy in a black smock tells them to on Sundays.

That viewpoint is reinforced throughout the rest of the week by listening to their favorite bloviators on clear channel radio and Fox "news."

And some people are just plain incapable of doing much of anything unless they're told to.
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:24 AM
 
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this ssite sucks!
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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everybody knows they are right and everyone else is wrong. Secularists are no different.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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this ssite sucks!
Oh c'mon now. Your first post and this is the best you can do? Even carries a typo!

Not a good start!
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