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Maybe. I just thought it was interesting that two books of the Bible quote it, and say they quote it, but that we don't have it. However those two quotes could be the only thing of value in it. Anyway this is one position on the matter, that everything in the Bible is what's meant to be there, and I'm sympathetic in some respects.
Still it's kind of interesting to look at things like the Proto-Evangelion of James or the Book of Enoch whether or not they're canonical. We can't even do that with things like Jasher. I wonder what that says of us or of knowledge or of things we can never know.
Maybe I'm being wistful because it's morning.
Remember that the bible is a compilation, it's not a book that was written in entirety to BE as it is.
"And the sun and the moon stood still, till the people revenged themselves of their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher?" --Joshua, 10. 13.
"Behold it is written in the Book of Jasher."--II Samuel, i. 18
Other, possibly more accurate, translations call it "Book of the Just" and "Book of the Upright." When I read the Bible this is one that kind of fascinated me. The footnote in my copy of the my text listed it as "lost" and, outside of a spurious Medieval book, it seems to be lost. Both to Judaism and Christianity. I used to think if I had a time machine or time-viewer finding a copy of the Book of Jasher would be an interesting feat. I don't know if a science fiction story like that would sell though.
What do you think the Book of Jasher concerned? Did it exist at all? What, if anything, does its absence say in Judaism or in Sola Scriptura Christianity? Has this been done before?
It isn't lost. There are fake Jasher's, but this one is real. Book of Jasher
Moses used the writings of the ancient patriarchs to compose it, up to his death, after which Joshua completed it.
It is a companion book to Genesis-Joshua, and because Moses redacted the histories in the five books, Jasher gives understanding to many things in Genesis -Numbers and into Joshua, making obscure things clear.
Within it is included the book called the Wars of the LORD, concerning Jacob and his sons and YHWH's aiding them supernaturally, to give them victory over their enemies.
"And the sun and the moon stood still, till the people revenged themselves of their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher?" --Joshua, 10. 13.
"Behold it is written in the Book of Jasher."--II Samuel, i. 18
Other, possibly more accurate, translations call it "Book of the Just" and "Book of the Upright." When I read the Bible this is one that kind of fascinated me. The footnote in my copy of the my text listed it as "lost" and, outside of a spurious Medieval book, it seems to be lost. Both to Judaism and Christianity. I used to think if I had a time machine or time-viewer finding a copy of the Book of Jasher would be an interesting feat. I don't know if a science fiction story like that would sell though.
What do you think the Book of Jasher concerned? Did it exist at all? What, if anything, does its absence say in Judaism or in Sola Scriptura Christianity? Has this been done before?
There is also a reference to the book of Chronicles of the Kings but it is not the Chronicles in the OT. There is anothere set of Chronicles out there.
There is also a reference to the book of Chronicles of the Kings but it is not the Chronicles in the OT. There is anothere set of Chronicles out there.
There are lots of references to books which are lost, but Jasher [the real Jasher, there are false Jashers], is not lost to us anymore and hasn't been for almost two hundred years. Jasher includes the book of the wars of the LORD, though, so that is solved.
You should read it, it has lots of glory for those of Israeli blood, showing God's supernatural deliverance of them in times of trouble. The first six day war with the Canaanite kings is fascinating, and David read it and referred to things written in it, in his inspired Psalm 18. He covers Noah's prayer in the Ark and God's answer, and David never ran through a troop [of mighty men] and David never leaped over walls, but the sons of Jacob did, in that six day war. It is described in its beginnings in chapter 33 and goes to chapter 41. Book of Jasher
Maybe. I just thought it was interesting that two books of the Bible quote it, and say they quote it, but that we don't have it. However those two quotes could be the only thing of value in it. Anyway this is one position on the matter, that everything in the Bible is what's meant to be there, and I'm sympathetic in some respects.
Still it's kind of interesting to look at things like the Proto-Evangelion of James or the Book of Enoch whether or not they're canonical. We can't even do that with things like Jasher. I wonder what that says of us or of knowledge or of things we can never know.
Maybe I'm being wistful because it's morning.
There's quite a few references in the OT and NT to books that we don't have. It does not mean that we need to go looking for them though. I believe what we have is enough.
Do we know for sure that what you're reading as the Proto-Evangelion of James or the Book of Enoch are authentic?
There's quite a few references in the OT and NT to books that we don't have. It does not mean that we need to go looking for them though. I believe what we have is enough.
Do we know for sure that what you're reading as the Proto-Evangelion of James or the Book of Enoch are authentic?
There's quite a few references in the OT and NT to books that we don't have. It does not mean that we need to go looking for them though. I believe what we have is enough.
Do we know for sure that what you're reading as the Proto-Evangelion of James or the Book of Enoch are authentic?
Enough for what?
One does not come to Jesus through dead letters on white [or colored] pages, but by the call of the Holy Spirit when one hears the Gospel. It is conviction that one responds to that brings one to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
Then, after one is born again in Christ, are they to just la-la through life, satisfied to never study to show themselves approved unto God, workmen that need not to be ashamed? I have been born again in Christ for 40 years this year, and did not have answers to questions which arose when I read the Bible. The Bible leaves a lot unanswered in remarks made, or in timelines of history in the events of the patriarchs; but behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher! -and in 1 Enoch, and anyone can now prove all things and not have those questions unanswered that arise on reading through the Bible with a hungry heart for information.
And James is inspired, if that is what you are asking, because James is mostly a book expounding on what is written in 1 Enoch concerning those points James, a womb brother of Jesus, brings up.
And 1 Enoch was extant before Christ Jesus came in flesh, and was used as Scripture and called Scripture, by Jesus; and his womb brothers, Jude and James concured, quoting from it.
The proof is in the reading of it comparing it to the OT and NT. It correlates to both, not contradicting anything in them, and shedding light on the foundational doctrines of the OT and NT, which doctrines are not laid out in the OT but are there, referred to, but are already laid out in 1 Enoch -so why should they be re-laid out?
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