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Greatest I am · 10-10-2009, 08:56 AM

End time. Will God fail again as in the end time of Noah‘s day?

List of attempts to get thing right even as scripture says that all of God‘s works are perfect.
Heaven and angels.-------------God creates perfect angels and finds iniquity in Satan.
It is said that God is the creator of all things. This would include iniquity.
How could iniquity appear in Satan if God did not place this in him?
Earth and man.-------------------God creates a perfect man and woman.
These perfect entities rebel against God’s command.
Rebellion was also created by God.
All that God creates has purpose. Why punish man for wanting the moral
sense that comes from the knowledge of good and evil. Can man be
complete without a moral sense when both God and the Church work hard
to help us develop one?
Earth and man again after Noah. To restart His initial failed system where evil and sin had been born, God
destroys the world with a genocidal flood and restarts with supposedly
pure good stock in Noah and his kin. Evil and sin reemerge again
somehow.
End time judgment.----------------God seems to have failed to date to keep evil and sin out of man. We are
even told that it is in our God given nature and that evil and sin is created
by God. Some scripture even indicate that God wants man to sin so that
he can repent which seems to be a requirement to get into heaven. I
find this to be a logical position for God to take if all that He creates, in
terms of sin and evil, are to serve His purposes. This would mean that we
have learned our moral lesson and can recognize the good and evil within
us. This also allows God to save all of us as any loving God with access
to miracles would do.
We then see three attempts that have not turned out the way, it seems, that God wants.
My question, then to believers in a literal Bible especially and whoever else would like to comment are--
What makes you think that God will get it right the next time when He has failed at least 3 times in the past?
If God’s works are perfect then are we living in a perfect state and God does not have to return to fix what, as perfect, cannot be broken and follows it’s perfect nature?
For literal readers of scripture I offer as back up for God perfection and perfect works a quote and also a quote showing that it is God‘s will that none be lost while at the same time the above shows clearly that His will is not being done.
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect:
[SIZE=2][/SIZE]2 Peter 3:9 KJ
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

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DL
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mercy777 · 10-10-2009, 11:13 AM

Romans 11:32
For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. God wants to show us his love and mercy. Not in a way man thinks it should be, but the way God is. He is a repairer of the broken and most of the time we don't even realize we are being mended by God because we are not watching Him work in us. We want the quick fix in our time, when God has no time. He created time on earth. His love, mercy and grace are unfathomable.
Satan is an angel. His own pride destroyed his relationship with God and brought on his death into hell He and his followers were cast out of heaven. He knows his time is short. He is jealous because God gave man dominion over the earth. He knows it hurts God when he hurts his children. The Beautiful blessing of Jesus, his life, death and resurrection conquered satan's power over us.
Thank you

I_Feel_Fat_2 · 10-10-2009, 05:16 PM

Greatest I am has a point. It almost seems like god set us up to fail on purpose just to make himself look good. Sad. No wonder I can't seem to embrace the teachings in the bible even though I have tried.

Mercury Cougar · 10-10-2009, 05:21 PM

There is absolutely no evidence pointing to the existence of a deity. Thus, I don't believe in one. Ergo, 'god' will neither fail nor succeed. Therefore, no end times.

Ta-da!

Greatest I am · 10-11-2009, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercy777

Romans 11:32
For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. God wants to show us his love and mercy. Not in a way man thinks it should be, but the way God is. He is a repairer of the broken and most of the time we don't even realize we are being mended by God because we are not watching Him work in us. We want the quick fix in our time, when God has no time. He created time on earth. His love, mercy and grace are unfathomable.
Satan is an angel. His own pride destroyed his relationship with God and brought on his death into hell He and his followers were cast out of heaven. He knows his time is short. He is jealous because God gave man dominion over the earth. He knows it hurts God when he hurts his children. The Beautiful blessing of Jesus, his life, death and resurrection conquered satan's power over us.
Thank you

Satan, angels, resurection, miracles of all kinds.

1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Need I say more?

If Jesus conquered Satan's power, it was because God gave Satan that power in the first place.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am · 10-11-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I_Feel_Fat_2

Greatest I am has a point. It almost seems like god set us up to fail on purpose just to make himself look good. Sad. No wonder I can't seem to embrace the teachings in the bible even though I have tried.

Thanks.

Regards
DL