Think like Darwin. Are God and His works perfect? (genesis, quote, Biblical)

[Greatest I am]

Think like Darwin. Are God and His works perfect?

I do not believe in the conventional God of scripture but regardless of this fact, I believe that we live in a perfect environment and evolving system.
There is biblical support for this view as well in this.
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect:
[SIZE=2]Many believe that this perfection was destroyed by man in Genesis.
How perfection can make imperfect choices is beyond me but most think that Genesis was the fall of man. I do not agree because I cannot see man as complete without he knowledge of good and evil.
Some do. They, I think are misguided.
I believe that we live in evolving perfection.
When Darwin found the Galapagos Islands, he found just that. A system that was as perfect as it could be at that point in time. I stretch what he found to the whole of creation and see it and all of us as perfect as we can be.
[/SIZE][SIZE=3]It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]If things are always as good as they can be then we can say that things are perfect and moving continuously towards a more perfect state.
If you see perfection as a stagnant unchanging condition then you may want to use good and getting better
At all times.
Scripture says that God looked upon the garden of Eden and even knowing what evil and sin would transpire there, called it good.
Evolution, even with competition/evil, must be recognized as the most perfect system available to us.
To me, either God or nature has provided us with evolving perfection.
If God is to maintain His perfection and that of His works so as not to back slide then things must be perfect and it is to us to recognize it.
Do you recognize our perfect environment over time or do you see God’s perfect works as somehow becoming imperfect?
Can perfection become imperfection?
If so, does that mean that God or nature has back slide into imperfection?

Regards
DL
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[Eresh]

I don't think any living thing is perfect. They can be incredibly well adapted for the current environment, but that can easily change if(when) the environment changes.

[Mercury Cougar]

Perfect? Don't make me laugh. This world is NOT perfect! LOL

[Greatest I am]

Originally Posted by Eresh

I don't think any living thing is perfect. They can be incredibly well adapted for the current environment, but that can easily change if(when) the environment changes.

Have you never seen a newborn, even one with flaws?
It is as perfect as nature and evolution can produce.
Nature always does the best it can with whatever DNA is at hand. Optimizing is perfection over time.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

Originally Posted by Mercury Cougar

Perfect? Don't make me laugh. This world is NOT perfect! LOL

Is nature and evolution flawed then?

Show how you would improve them then laugh.

Regards
DL

[Eresh]

Originally Posted by Greatest I am

Have you never seen a newborn, even one with flaws?

If it has flaws, then how is it perfect?

[Mercury Cougar]

Originally Posted by Greatest I am

Is nature and evolution flawed then?

Show how you would improve them then laugh.

Regards
DL

How asinine. Are you for real?

[Kaye02]

Originally Posted by Greatest I am

Think like Darwin. Are God and His works perfect?

I do not believe in the conventional God of scripture but regardless of this fact, I believe that we live in a perfect environment and evolving system.
There is biblical support for this view as well in this.
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect:
[SIZE=2]Many believe that this perfection was destroyed by man in Genesis.
How perfection can make imperfect choices is beyond me but most think that Genesis was the fall of man. I do not agree because I cannot see man as complete without he knowledge of good and evil.
Some do. They, I think are misguided.
I believe that we live in evolving perfection.
When Darwin found the Galapagos Islands, he found just that. A system that was as perfect as it could be at that point in time. I stretch what he found to the whole of creation and see it and all of us as perfect as we can be.
[/SIZE][SIZE=3]It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]If things are always as good as they can be then we can say that things are perfect and moving continuously towards a more perfect state.
If you see perfection as a stagnant unchanging condition then you may want to use good and getting better
At all times.
Scripture says that God looked upon the garden of Eden and even knowing what evil and sin would transpire there, called it good.
Evolution, even with competition/evil, must be recognized as the most perfect system available to us.
To me, either God or nature has provided us with evolving perfection.
If God is to maintain His perfection and that of His works so as not to back slide then things must be perfect and it is to us to recognize it.
Do you recognize our perfect environment over time or do you see God’s perfect works as somehow becoming imperfect?
Can perfection become imperfection?
If so, does that mean that God or nature has back slide into imperfection?

Regards
DL
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Huh? If something is perfect it wouldn't need to evolve, would it?

[Greatest I am]

Originally Posted by Eresh

If it has flaws, then how is it perfect?

Is it not the best that evolution and nature can produce with the DNA at hand. It cannot be better. That is perfection.

As stated, if you are hung up on the word perfect and see it as a stagnant state then use good moving to better.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

Originally Posted by Mercury Cougar

How asinine. Are you for real?

You are the idiot who has a complaint about the process yet have no suggestion as to how to improve it.

Regards
DL