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Old 10-28-2009, 02:31 PM
 
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this is the most celebrate verse in the Christianity, and It what base for
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The Gospel of John is the last Gospel (after 180 AD)....John wrote his Gospel after Matthew,Mark,Luke .... how Matthew,Mark,Luke forgot to told us this very very important information ...
Did really God sent Jesus to die for us ???? if it's yes it's mean that was a secret discover by John
....but if the answer is "No" !!!
if I prove that Jesus did not said that He (Jesus) sent for die !! do you will believe

and this is the verse of the bible deny that Jesus came for died for our sins

what the Holy spirit said to Mary ?!!
*1* Jesus (PUH) came to be a Lord of the throne of David !!! (not for sin or salvation as John said )
Lu 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David

*2* Jesus (PUH) to show the people that there is one GOD (as He said) :
Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

He (Jesus PUH) I have finished my work that gave to me !!!! it mean that there is no salvation work !!!

*3* Jesus (PUH) confirmed that He come for complete the message of GOD !!!
Mt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

*4* Jesus (PUH) order his people to believe his Gospel ...it's mean that The Gospel was existed in his age !!!!!
Mr 1:4 ¶ Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mr 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Jesus (PUH) order his people (the jews ) to believe in his Gospel....it's mean that the Gospel was existed in his hand and "the Gospel between them"!!!!!
but unfortunately the Authors "John,Mark,Matthew,Luke" (modifiers) forgot to modify/delete this verse from the Bible

*5* Jesus (PUH) came for fix what the Jews done !!!
Mt 23:13 ¶ But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

*6* Jesus (PUH) came for remember the people that the time is fulfilled
Mr 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

*7* Jesus (PUH) came preach the world for the "resurrection"
Lu 4:43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

*8* Jesus (PUH) confirmed that he did not come for the sin !!! on contrary the jews who did not believe in Him they did a sin !!!!
Joh 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.

I want to say what is the bigger sin between: the sin of denied and killed God (as you believe) or the sin of ate apple (Adam and Eve)...
- is not the sin of killing God and deny him and insult him is more and more awful than the other sins ???!!!
in this case we can say that Jesus (PUH) make his killers heritage the sin ( deny him and killing him )

Paul insult Jesus when he said :"Jesus (PUH) was curse for us ....(GOD curse !!!)"
Ga 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:
for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

*9* did He (Jesus PUH) was satisfy : to hurt and insult and died for (our sins )
No of course ...and Bible prove that

Mt 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death:

why he was sad !!! why he was crying and pray his God to save him (if He was come to die for us )

*10* If he was came for died why warring the man who cheat him and inform to his place !!! (Judas)
Mt 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

*11* Jesus (PUH) prayed and to save him from the Jews (who want to kill him) ...and Paul confirmed and attested that Jesus saved
Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

*12* And if he was came to die for our sins why the people crying, and being sad for him when they took him ???!!!
they suppose to be happy ...because He will died for their sins !!!???
Lu 23:48 And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the things which were done, smote their breasts, and returned.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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I appreciate the "PUH" that you put in there. It alerts me to the fact that you're a muslim, and I can tell what presuppositions you likely have.

You blew it on then 2nd sentence of your post. The Gospel of John was written in about 90 AD...long before your suggested date. Your whole post falls apart there.

In any event, this post further illustrates the fact that you have no concept what the Trinity and Hypostatic Union is. I would suggest you do some research into Christian Theology to understand what those things are before you do much more copy/paste from your islamic website.
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