Krishna/Jesus -- Many Similarities (Islam, worship, evolution, Adam)

[He Is Lord]

Originally Posted by ChristyGrl

Krishna is the second person of the Hindu Trinity. He is considered to be one of the incarnations of the God Vishnu. Some Hindus believe that he lived on Earth during perhaps the 2nd or 3rd century BCE. Jesus of Nazareth is generally regarded as having been born in Palestine circa 4 to 7 BCE.

Are the similarities in the lives of these individuals mere coincidence? You be the judge:

[FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Jesus and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]His adoptive human father was a carpenter.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]A spirit or ghost was their actual father.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna's parents stayed in Mathura.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both Jesus and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both were identified as "the seed of the woman bruising the serpent's head."[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Jesus was called "the lion of the tribe of Judah." Krishna was called "the lion of the tribe of Saki."[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both claimed: "I am the Resurrection."[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both referred to themselves having existed before their birth on earth.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both were "without sin." [/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured "all manner of diseases." [/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both encountered a Gentile woman at a well.[/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies. [/FONT][FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Both descended into Hell, and were resurrected. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.[/FONT]

You may say that they have many things in common but The Bible has something no other book in the world has. Example: Prophecy, past present and future. oh, and how about the Archaeological facts found?

Jericho
The strata here and the ruins confirm the destruction of Jericho both the fall of the walls and the fire.It is (possibly) the oldest city in the world.

Hebron
highest city in Israel Important to Abraham (Gen 13; 18, 23; 19)

Hazor
size and location; one of Joshua’s key cities Josh.11; 10)

Bar Yosef
canal built by Joseph in preparation for the 7 year famine in Egypt; it still runs today and provides water to that area of Egypt.

Moses in Egypt
too many examples to cite here.(Secular and religious)

Exodus
Archaeological proof of a rapid departure in the Kahun area of Egypt

The Plagues
SECULAR records of their occurrence as well as Biblical

Sarah’s Tomb
Genesis 23. A cave in Hebron has been found and research says it is the grave of Sarah.

Rocks of iron and copper
God told Moses that the Promised land would have “rocks of iron and copper” (Deut 8;9) 20 miles south of the Dead Sea, a large area is dotted with ancient furnaces.The region is dotted with heaps of copper slag. Some veins are still visible above the ground.

The Queen of Sheba visits Solomon
(1Kings 10) At Hatshepsut’s temple in Luxor the inscriptions on the walls repeat almost glyph for word what is recorded in the Bible.

Pharaoh Shishak The Bible records an invasion from Egypt, led by Pharaoh Shishak who carried off treasures (1 Kings 14;26) This campaign is confirmed by inscription in the temple of Karnak in Egypt, which shows among other things, the names of many cities.

Hezekiah’s Tunnel
(2 Kings 20;20, 2 Chron 32;30) Hezekiah built a tunnel to bring more water into the city from the Gihon Spring for protection during a pending siege from the Assyrians. This tunnel ended at the Pool of Siloam. This tunnel has water that is up to waist deep (depending on your height) and is full of water rats, more importantly, there are secular building records of this tunnel.

Dead Sea Scrolls
Quite possible the subject of another FAQ.

Golgotha (Calvary)
the “place of the Skull” the cave is there today, and is very obvious.

Capernaum
Here is a synagogue with inscriptions that date back to Jesus’ time, and records that confirm his preaching.

The Ark of the Covenant
Okay, so it has never been found, but there is plenty of evidence of its existence, and this evidence correlates exactly with the Scriptural description.(There is a pictorial -glyph - record of it in Egypt along with all the other things that were taken from the temple, and at Capernaum there are stone carvings of it).

Jebel Musa
The Mount of Moses. At the foot of the mountain has been found evidence of a VERY large settlement of Asiatic people dating from the time of the Exodus.

There are thousands more finds that verify the truth of the Bible.Not just buildings, but scrolls, inscriptions and numerous other documents.
How can you compare Jesus to anything else?

Here is a nice article to put things back into perspective

Investigating the Similarities between Jesus and Pagan Figures

[Rafius]

Originally Posted by Shiloh1

Here is a nice article to put things back into perspective

Investigating the Similarities between Jesus and Pagan Figures

"An important fact to keep in mind while reading this section is the approximate 300 detailed Messianic
prophecies regarding the life, death, and ministry of Jesus in the Old Testament. The prophecies span
approximately 450 to 1,500 years before His birth"

Another important fact to keep in mind is that these 'prophecies' are only found in the Bible and it is also the Bible that confirms their 'fulfillment'. Doesn't work if you just think about it for a moment does it?

Originally Posted by Rafius

"An important fact to keep in mind while reading this section is the approximate 300 detailed Messianic
prophecies regarding the life, death, and ministry of Jesus in the Old Testament. The prophecies span
approximately 450 to 1,500 years before His birth"

Another important fact to keep in mind is that these 'prophecies' are only found in the Bible and it is also the Bible that confirms their 'fulfillment'. Doesn't work if you just think about it for a moment does it?

I think you missed the point of why he stated that. He was talking about certain themes like resurrection and virgin birth that preceded Christ - so that these ideas were prior to Christ and did not originate with Christianity.

Originally Posted by Rafius

"An important fact to keep in mind while reading this section is the approximate 300 detailed Messianic
prophecies regarding the life, death, and ministry of Jesus in the Old Testament. The prophecies span
approximately 450 to 1,500 years before His birth"

Another important fact to keep in mind is that these 'prophecies' are only found in the Bible and it is also the Bible that confirms their 'fulfillment'. Doesn't work if you just think about it for a moment does it?

Or what about this quote just below yours:

Regardless, since we will show the copycat claims to be false, the argument of who came first
shows itself to be irrelevant.

[filihok]

Originally Posted by He Is Lord

You may say that they have many things in common but The Bible has something no other book in the world has. Example: Prophecy, past present and future. oh, and how about the Archaeological facts found?

...

There are thousands more finds that verify the truth of the Bible.Not just buildings, but scrolls, inscriptions and numerous other documents.
How can you compare Jesus to anything else?

Once Upon a Time there was a poster named He Is Lord who posted in a thread titled Krishna/Jesus -- Many Similarities in the City-Data Forum. That poster was a unicorn.

Proof:
There is a poster named He Is Lord

There is a forum named City-Data Forum

There is a thread titled Krishna/Jesus -- Many Similarities

Any questions?

[Rafius]

Originally Posted by Shiloh1

I think you missed the point of why he stated that. He was talking about certain themes like resurrection and virgin birth that preceded Christ - so that these ideas were prior to Christ and did not originate with Christianity.

I don't think I did miss the point Shiloh. The claim was that this Jesus fella fulfilled some 300 or so 'prophecies'. My point is that those 'fulfillments' are found in the NT. So in other words we see that the OT says that something is going to happen and the NT says that it did happen. It doesn't work pal!

Originally Posted by Rafius

I don't think I did miss the point Shiloh. The claim was that this Jesus fella fulfilled some 300 or so 'prophecies'. My point is that those 'fulfillments' are found in the NT. So in other words we see that the OT says that something is going to happen and the NT says that it did happen. It doesn't work pal!

Yes he did make the claim but the point is that the paper does not try to prove that, he merely wanted to show that the concepts (found in the prophecies) were prior to Christ and the Krishna stories, and that the reader should keep that in mind when reading the paper. There was no borrowing or invention. Furthermore, it would not matter becasuse the Hindu texts do not contain the suspossed similarities to be borrowed.

[Centrist]

Krishna was never a womanizer as is popularly believed. He was a little child/baby when the gopis were with him who were more his mothers. He was the darling child in the community where he grew. He is said to have a thousand wives but if you look back it was commonplace those days to have polygamy. As a king(which he was of Dwaraka) he conquered many lands and normally one ends up marrying the princesses of these lands.

Living hundreds of thousands of years and marrying hundreds of thousands of times were commonplace eventhough by the age of 30 one was considered old and decripit.

Krishna and Jesus were not real people. They were made up characters to convince and unite the illiterate and superstitious masses of those days. To date archaeology or other methods of evidence have not come up with any evidence of Jesus's existence or his life or the resurrection which is the hub of christianity. The new testament is the only sourc- which was compiled long after his crucifixion. A lot of these myths were propounded by the Catholic church who did a calculated great job in convincing the masses. It is highly likely that they took a lot of info from a lot of the previous existent cultures, who really were not aware of each other. After all the christian saints and apostles travelled far and wide in disseminating their faith with conversion as their main dogma.

[arjunw]

Iam a hindu,and i would like to tell you all dat you dudes have got some facts about krishanji seriously wrong n twisted.i do not blame anyone for that.I cannot comment the same fer jesus as i do not know his story completely.But what i can do is point out the true facts about krishanjis life..for starters
My corrections r in brackets..

Are the similarities in the lives of these individuals mere coincidence? You be the judge:

Jesus and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.(wrong.Krishanji is said to be the only person to have openly claimed to be GOD or in the sankrit words PARAMSHAKTI/NARAYAN as per the hindu texts).Both was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man(Krishanji claimed himself to be AJANMA meaning he cannot be born he PRAKATS meaning appears at his OWN will).Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity(Krishanji is not the 2nd person of the trinity,he is the incarnation of VISHNUji who is the second of the trinity and also the one from whome the TRINITY emerged).His adoptive human father was a carpenter.A spirit or ghost was their actual father.(Krishanjis aadoptive father was not a carpenter but a COWHERDER,He did not have an actual father)Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent.(true)Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star.(WRONG KRISHANJI was not visited by any such people)Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination.(IN krishanjis case the local administrator was told that he would be killed by the 8th child to be born from his younger sisters womb in front of the entire town..it was not a warning..It was an AKAASHVANI meaning an open decleration from the skies) The parents fled.(krishanjis parents were made to live in a jail for the entire period of the the births of the 8 baby and upon the birth of the first 6 they were killed by KANS,the local administrator,jesus was not the 8th child,krishanji was) Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna's parents stayed in Mathura.Both Jesus and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted.Both were identified as "the seed of the woman bruising the serpent's head."Jesus was called "the lion of the tribe of Judah." Krishna was called "the lion of the tribe of Saki."(never heard of krishanji being called anything but PRABHU)Both claimed: "I am the Resurrection."(wrong krishanji did not refer to himself as the resurrection,he claimed to be the one and only almighty god who is everything dat was ,is n would be)Both referred to themselves having existed before their birth on earth.(krishanji only said dat is exists everywhere all the time,even when he was on earth he also existed in heaven and all other places imaginable)Both were "without sin." Both were god-menno,krishanji clamied to be no man,but PARBRAHM meaning he who is everything) being considered both human and divine.They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole.(Healing a leper was one of the later miracles krishanji performed ,one of the 1st to be publicaly known on a very large scale was when he lifted GOVARDHAN PARBAT meaning a huge mountain by the name of govardhan on his index finger and gave his entire village consisting of hundreds of ppl shelter from a storm so big dat it blew away half the village and lasted fer 7 days) Each cured "all manner of diseases." Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead.Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.(IAM SORRY TO POINT OUT,KRISHANJI selected no such disciples)Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners.(this criticism was done by the sinners themselves)Both encountered a Gentile woman at a well.Both celebrated a last supper.(no.This is just wrong info) Both forgave his enemies. Both descended into Hell, and were resurrected.(no.This is some westernised version of krishanji being written here..its a poor re-telling of krishanjis story) Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.[LEFT]

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Besides all these things there is one thing which is a major factor distinguishing the two.It is the purpose for their visit to earth.Krishanji came to earth to establish DHARAM meaning righteousness not peace.CAN YOU SAY THE SAME FOR JESUS???? Sorry to have shot this down.But this is full of crap.CRAP.Whoever has written these things about krishanji obv does not the the story..maybe just a jist of it.Anyways...i do not intend to insult anyone here,iam merely correcting what is common knowledge in india about krishanji.And i would be happy to answer any further inquiries.