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Old 11-07-2009, 06:42 AM
 
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Does anyone here know the time period when Christian churches and other religious philosophies began using the phrases New Birth and Divine Love?
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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You may not get an answer as most of the christians here haven't heard of Divine Love. They only know of the New Birth and they believe they are born again when they have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Now I may be off but that's the jist of it.

I don't remember reading of that in the Padgett messages. If I did, it just didn't seem that important to remember it. I always disregard that which won't do me any good in getting to heaven so if it was mentioned, I forgot what the answer was.

I know I did read something on the net, not Padgett related, that talked about Divine Love back in the 1700's but I can't remember where. I don't even recall if the New birth was mentioned in conjunction with it. I also believe someone here mentioned Divine Love religion at about the same time frame, could have been the 1600's with that one.

Seems to be still fairly new.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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You may not get an answer as most of the christians here haven't heard of Divine Love. They only know of the New Birth and they believe they are born again when they have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Now I may be off but that's the jist of it.

I don't remember reading of that in the Padgett messages. If I did, it just didn't seem that important to remember it. I always disregard that which won't do me any good in getting to heaven so if it was mentioned, I forgot what the answer was.

I know I did read something on the net, not Padgett related, that talked about Divine Love back in the 1700's but I can't remember where. I don't even recall if the New birth was mentioned in conjunction with it. I also believe someone here mentioned Divine Love religion at about the same time frame, could have been the 1600's with that one.

Seems to be still fairly new.
Hi thanks Rev1111. I didn't make myself clear on this. I really want to know during the last say 50 years when these terms became widely used, not only in the Christian churches but others as well.

You may enjoy reading this that I just found. This man, Sri Chimnoy, came from India to the USA in 1964:

Divine love makes no demand. It is spontaneous and constant. It is unlimited in every way. It is like the sun. The sun is for everybody. Everybody can use the sunlight, but if we keep our doors and windows shut, what can the sun do? It is God’s divine Love that has to act in and through human love. But if we do not care for the divine love that is flowing around us or wants to flow in us, then the divine love cannot function in and through us.

Divine Love — Sri Chinmoy

The reason why I was wondering about this is because I read a message recently that said that way back in 1914 or 1915, Celestial Angels were working in the churches influencing ministers and others.

Fast forward to the present and we know there are churches all over the country with the name New Birth Christian Church, even though they may not know of Divine Love.

And we also are aware that the term Divine Love has been around awhile, brought to us by Mr. Chimnoy and probably others that I'm currently not aware of.

So it appears that the work started by the Angels all those years ago is having an effect... and eventually all the dots will be connected as more and more people become aware of these terms and learn their true meaning... and that there can't be one without the other.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:39 PM
 
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Why did the Divine Love create polio, ebola, poisonous snakes, fault lines, tornadoes?
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:33 AM
 
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Why did the Divine Love create polio, ebola, poisonous snakes, fault lines, tornadoes?
It didn't. Those things are there because of the flaws in humans and nature. Neither is perfect yet. With Divine Love, those things can be eradicated for good, never to return. Once the earth settles, as she is still young, the tornadoes, tsunamis and the like will stop. Of course negativity does make it worse.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:23 AM
 
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Why did the Divine Love create polio, ebola, poisonous snakes, fault lines, tornadoes?
It is the absence of Divine Love that creates this...

Is the picture coming into focus now?
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:33 AM
 
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It is the absence of Divine Love that creates this...

Is the picture coming into focus now?
A picture of lunacy, yes. So earthquakes are the fault of people, who don't have "divine love"? Congratulations, you are now on the level of fundy.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:34 AM
 
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It didn't. Those things are there because of the flaws in humans and nature. Neither is perfect yet. With Divine Love, those things can be eradicated for good, never to return. Once the earth settles, as she is still young, the tornadoes, tsunamis and the like will stop. Of course negativity does make it worse.
Please tell me how "negativity" makes tornadoes worse?
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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It didn't. Those things are there because of the flaws in humans and nature. Neither is perfect yet. With Divine Love, those things can be eradicated for good, never to return. Once the earth settles, as she is still young, the tornadoes, tsunamis and the like will stop. Of course negativity does make it worse.
Uh oh...That is not within the realm of anything remotely realistic...Natural disasters will always be with us on this earth, which by the way is certainly not young. That is unless you consider 4.5 billion years to be young in the grand scheme of things. Our sun will die a spectacular death in about 7 billion years, and earth along with it...That is when the natural disasters will cease.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:40 AM
 
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Please tell me how "negativity" makes tornadoes worse?
The earth is made up of energy and other substances. Humans are made up of energy and other substances. The energy of the earth and the energy of humans is the same energy. When the negative energy of humans conflicts with the earths energy, the storms worsen in their effects. When we raise our energy to the positive, the earth's energies are then gentler, although the earth will still produce storms but not as severe. Eventually, when the earth settles and our souls have all developed sufficiently in the light of God, we shall see no more outrageous storms, possibly very calm rain showers where tsunamis once loomed.

A good way to look at it is that thoughts create reality. If we watch our thoughts and keep them positive no matter what arises, we can lesson the effects of the negative all around.
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