What Are The Best Examples Of Prophecies From The Bible That Have Come True? (create, temple)
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I know Tyre was a fortitied island city. Yet I also know Tyre was a fortified city on the main land as well. Why do you keep ignoring that?
Because it wasn't...Can you not read? The mainland settlement, originally called Ushu (later, Palaetyrus, by the Greeks) was actually more like a line of suburbs than any one city and was used primarily as a source of water and timber for the main island city. Regarding your assertion that Tyre is now beneath the sea. That is also wrong. The island of Hercules to the south of the city of Tyre is now submerged, not Tyre itself.
The orginal site of Tyre is now underwater. There is a town near by, however the orginal site remains submerged. The orginal Tyre, was called "Old Tyer," and in the past, it was located on the mainland. Most of the new buildings you see today, are built on a road that was constructed by Alexander the Great's men. And that road is not on the location of "Old Tyer". Much of that road was built from the destroyed buildings from "Old Tyer", and the remains of those buildings, had to be transported to that spot.
Why do you make this nonsense up, when it is so easy to find the truth? Below is Tyre as it stands today, but it is now called Sur.
Link please....I take absolutely nothing you say at face value. The location of the city of Tyre is not in doubt, for it exists to this day on the same spot and is known as Sur....Failed prophesy
So, are you saying the city of Tyre was built on the sea? Because Sur, is built on Alexander the Great's land bridge. LOL
And it is in Benjamin of Tudela's diary on page 31 that we read.
"A man can ascend the walls of the New Tyre and see ancient Tyre, which the sea has now covered, laying a stone's throw from the new city. And should one care to go forth by boat, one can see the castles, market places, streets, and palaces (IN THE BED OF THE SEA)."
Because it wasn't...Can you not read? The mainland settlement, originally called Ushu (later, Palaetyrus, by the Greeks) was actually more like a line of suburbs than any one city and was used primarily as a source of water and timber for the main island city. Regarding your assertion that Tyre is now beneath the sea. That is also wrong. The island of Hercules to the south of the city of Tyre is now submerged, not Tyre itself.
The island is not the main land. And Tyre, ancient city of Phoenicia, S of Sidon. (IT IS THE PRESENT-DAY SUR IN LEBANON), a small town on a penisula jutting into the Mediterranean
And this comes from the Columbia Encyclopedia.
How does this small town on the peninsula, now become the rebuilt city of TYRE?
Why do you make this nonsense up, when it is so easy to find the truth? Below is Tyre as it stands today, but it is now called Sur.
From the Columbia Encyclopedia
Tyre, ancient city of Phoenicia, S of Sidon. It is the present-day Sur in Lebanon, a small town on a peninsula jutting into the Mediterranean from the mainland.
I did not make any nonsense up. If Tyre was rebuilt, they would of call it Tyre, and not Sur. And it would of been built on both locations. And it would not be just some small town. And the town that is there, is mainly built on Alexander the Great's land bridge, which is neither the orginal island, or the mainland. Can you imagine if Chicago was destroyed, and then about a 1,000 years later, we put up a bunch of houses on Migs Field and call that island Hometown. And then you tell me. "See, Chicago was rebuilt". Well, that would be just about as nonsensical, as saying Sur is the rebuilt Tyre.
Tyre, ancient city of Phoenicia, S of Sidon. It is the present-day Sur in Lebanon, a small town on a peninsula jutting into the Mediterranean from the mainland.
I think you confuse present day Tyre/Sur with ancient Tyre. Yes, today Sur/Tyre is "jutting out from the mainland" because is joined to the mainland by means of Alexander's silted up causewaybut at the time of Nebby/Alexander it wasn't. It was an island. It has also been pointed out to you on many occasions the the mainland part wasn't even called Tyre, it was called Ushu and in at least one of the links I gave you it says that Tyre and Ushu often fought each other. If that was the part that Nebby was prophecised to destroy, why then it is not referred to as Ushu in your Bible? Why did we not have The Siege of Ushu rather than the Siege of Tyre?
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I did not make any nonsense up. If Tyre was rebuilt, they would of call it Tyre, and not Sur.
Utter nonsense man! If Constantinople was called that in the past, why is it called Istanbul today? Why is Stalingrad now called Volgagrad? Names of cities and even counties change. You're clutching at ever smaller straws Campbell.
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And the town that is there, is mainly built on Alexander the Great's land bridge, which is neither the orginal island, or the mainland.
Take it from someone who has been there and seen it for himself Campbell....Tyre or Sur as it is known today, stretches from the former mainland suburb of Ushu, across the causeway and onto the former island of Tyre....as can be seen from the photograph provided by our learned colleague Sanspeur. If you look at the bottom left of that photograph you can see the excavations of the Greek, Roman and Byzantine periods of Tyre. So if that area of excavations is on the former island of Tyre, why do you assume that the built-up area directly above it is not also on the former island of Tyre?
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Can you imagine if Chicago was destroyed, and then about a 1,000 years later, we put up a bunch of houses on Migs Field and call that island Hometown. And then you tell me. "See, Chicago was rebuilt". Well, that would be just about as nonsensical, as saying Sur is the rebuilt Tyre.
Bad analogy Campbell because it wasn't 1000 years before Tyre was rebuilt. In fact Alexander himself started to rebuild Tyre immediately after sacking it. It was an important strategic port and Alexander knew that....so he commenced the rebuilding immediately.
........ ports are always on mainland, since it would be completely illogical to build a port on an island.
Well your suggestion is well flawed here. I was born and raised on an island called Britain ......and it had hundreds of ports. I could fill a page with the names of islands that have ports. The island of Tyre had two ports.
Bad analogy Campbell because it wasn't 1000 years before Tyre was rebuilt. In fact Alexander himself started to rebuild Tyre immediately after sacking it. It was an important strategic port and Alexander knew that....so he commenced the rebuilding immediately.
LOL. So you still insist the PORT was on an island??? Think about it for a second. If that was true, then how did they get the cargo from the island to the mainland? By having another port on the mainland perhaps?
First they would have to ship the cargo hundreds of miles to the island, and then unload it. Then load it onto another ship, and ship it half a mile to the mainland port and unload again. You think they were a bunch of morons don't you?
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