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Old 12-09-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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Brain candy wrote:
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The visible ray of the sun will not be seen until it hits the atmosphere at daytime
LOL wut? How then is the sun visible when standing upon the surface of the moon? The moon has no atmosphere, thus by your reasoning the light of the sun shouldn't be visible from it.
He's actually right about that. The reason you can see the light from the sun on the moon is because there's a direct line of sight between your eyes and the sun. The sun is reflecting off of your eyes themselves. That's also why the photos that were taken on the moon reveal the surface of the moon which is also reflecting that light but because there's no atmosphere the sky is just black. Our atmosphere is filled with various gases and fine particles so the entire sky appears bright in the daytime because it's all reflecting that light. A ray of light travelling through the vacuum of outer space is invisible until it reflects on something.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:33 PM
 
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And yet, the silliness continues. The OP's question is surprisingly innocent, or is it a troll? So that we an be "educated" about the way Allah set up this world?
my aim from the question was to highlight a scientific information mentioned in a verse in the quran and to make it easy to understand.


3 By the Day as it shows up (the Sun's) glory;
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:35 PM
 
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LOL wut? How then is the sun visible when standing upon the surface of the moon? The moon has no atmosphere, thus by your reasoning the light of the sun shouldn't be visible from it.

i was talking about earth only
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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The only time we see light from the sun is when we look directly at it...Everything else is just a reflection of the sun's light, including our blue sky. We see the sky as blue because light scatters when passing through particles that have a diameter one tenth of the wavelength of the colour.
The blueness you see everywhere else is all of the atoms in the atmosphere scattering blue light toward you. Because red light, yellow light, green light and the other colors aren't scattered nearly as well, you see the sky as blue. Because of this reflection off these particles we cannot see the stars in the daytime.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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NASA - Moon

"philosophers in ancient Greece understood that the moon is a sphere in orbit around Earth. They also knew that moonlight is reflected sunlight."

Sorry, try again.

The Quran did not take it from the Greece.

and i posted the verses of the Quran that mentioned the scientific facts

can you name the greek book that said that and post the statments?
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:16 AM
 
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Dear Moonsun.... even if your Koran correctly postulated, without question, in clear language, the theory of relativity, the Pythagorean theorem, or Pi accurate out to a thousand decimal places it still does not prove the existence of Allah.

Each fact that your Koran claims to be true must stand on it's own. Just because it mentions one scientific truth does not mean all of Koran is true. Each one, each and every individual claim, must be individually vetted and validated and verified scientifically.

All of this for yet another logical fallacy.
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:54 AM
 
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The Quran did not take it from the Greece.

and i posted the verses of the Quran that mentioned the scientific facts
So? I was just demonstrating that you were wrong to claim that people didn't know the moon was lit by sunlight prior to the 7th century AD. None of what you wrote changes that.

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can you name the greek book that said that and post the statments?
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In the fifth century B.C., the Greek Anaxagoras reasoned that the Moon shines by reflected sunlight, and because it is a sphere, only half is illuminated at one time.
JOHN BURNET'S EARLY GREEK PHILOSOPHY, CHAPTER VI., ANAXAGORAS OF KLAZOMENAI gives a more thorough treatment of the subject, including the quote "It is the sun that puts brightness into the moon."

Any other questions?
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:07 AM
 
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If that is so, then how can we see thousands of suns that are thousands of light years away every time we look at the (clear) night sky? And why does the "moon" shine at night even though it has no atmosphere...Is it self-luminating too? And why do planets further out like Mars have a day and night cycle too?

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The only time we see light from the sun is when we look directly at it...Everything else is just a reflection of the sun's light, including our blue sky. We see the sky as blue because light scatters when passing through particles that have a diameter one tenth of the wavelength of the colour.
The blueness you see everywhere else is all of the atoms in the atmosphere scattering blue light toward you. Because red light, yellow light, green light and the other colors aren't scattered nearly as well, you see the sky as blue. Because of this reflection off these particles we cannot see the stars in the daytime.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:29 AM
 
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The only time we see light from the sun is when we look directly at it...Everything else is just a reflection of the sun's light, including our blue sky. We see the sky as blue because light scatters when passing through particles that have a diameter one tenth of the wavelength of the colour.
The blueness you see everywhere else is all of the atoms in the atmosphere scattering blue light toward you. Because red light, yellow light, green light and the other colors aren't scattered nearly as well, you see the sky as blue. Because of this reflection off these particles we cannot see the stars in the daytime.
what you say is hinted in the Quran 1400 years ago in Sura #91 called Ash-Shams (the sun) in verse 3

1 By the Sun and his (glorious) splendour;
2 By the Moon as she follows him;
3 By the Day as it shows up (the Sun's) glory;
4 By the Night as it conceals it;
5 By the Firmament and its (wonderful) structure;
6 By the Earth and its (wide) expanse:
7 By the Soul, and the proportion and order given to it;
8 And its enlightenment as to its wrong and its right;-
9 Truly he succeeds that purifies it,
10 And he fails that corrupts it!
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:44 AM
 
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You have to admit though, some of this crap is seriously entertaining


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I now sometimes wonder what will they throw at us next.....too bad there are no IQ restrictions on posting.

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yes it is but what's it have to do with religion and philosaphy?


1 By the Sun and his (glorious) splendour;
2 By the Moon as she follows him;
3 By the Day as it shows up (the Sun's) glory;



starting from second 40 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkOt11VZDN4
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