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Perhaps a better lesson to draw would be not to build your town, pious or not, at the bottom of a volcano.
You'd think that might have had something to do with Pompeii's destruction, wouldn't you? But apparently it was a religious offense. Who would have guessed?
I don't care if I am forgiven or not since I don't believe in the god that's in the bible....but your statement here in priceless!
Thank you. I use it as an example to demonstrate a number of things, primarily how flawed christian beliefs really are.
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There are no consequences to adultery. There are only consequences to being careless enough to get caught.
Of course there are consequences, that's why the military punishes adulterers by taking their rank, fining them, and often kicking them out of the military or imprisoning them.
Adulterers are gutless wonders, hell bent on fulfilling their own personal infantile urges at the expense of others.
What kind of coward doesn't have even an iota of courage to sit down and tell their spouse that their needs aren't being met? If you can't communicate with your spouse, then why did you marry in the first place? Oh, to fill an empty void in your life, or cowardly fear of being alone, or selfish egoism satisfied with a "trophy" spouse.
Personally, I'm sick and tired of idiot adulterers wasting my tax dollars by clogging up the courts with their stupidity.
29:21 "He punishes whomever He wills, and bestows His mercy on whomever He wills; and unto Him you shall be made to return".Quran
14:4 "And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make (the Message) clear for them. Then Allah lets go astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise".Quran
Allah has the power and strength to punish whomever He pleases, but in His justice His punishment does not befall any except those deserved it. When describing the punishment that befell previous disbelieving nations, the Qur'an states:
9:70, 29:40, 30:9. "It was not Allah Who wronged them, but they wronged their own souls."Quran
And in another location, Allah mentions: 43:76'" And We wronged them not, but they have been the wrong-doers themselves". Quran
What are the consequences of doing adultery? Indeed, God's punishment in the life in this world and more harmful punishment in hereafter .let us to read ….
There was a city in old Italy where its people were doing adultery and homosexuality and they were so proud with that. Also they used to draw pornographic pictures on walls in front of all people; researchers believe that art of pornography started in this dissolute city. {1}
What was the consequence of doing that? And what was the end of those people? What is the start of their story?
Sorta reminds me of the whole hoopla over Katrina when some christians tried to claim that it was god's wrath over the sins of New Orleans and the homosexuals. Funny thing is, out of all that was destroyed (including churches), that the French Quarter was spared! God must like debauchery and homosexuals after all! Hallelujah!
So with Allah, are you just SOL or is there any chance of forgiveness?
I say this because with Jesus we have God's grace. We can sin and then realize we really messed up. We can say " Lord I really screwed up, have mercy on me. And thru the forgiveness found in Jesus, God will say yes, I forgive.
Is such a thing found in Islam?
your Lord is God not Jesus we have one lord it is allah (god)
[LEFT]“Say: O ‘Ibaadi (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allaah, verily, Allaah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Zumar 39:53]
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Allaah says, stating that He forgives the greatest of sins (interpretation of the meaning):
[LEFT]“And those who invoke not any other ilaah (god) along with Allaah, nor kill such person as Allaah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse and whoever does this shall receive the punishment.
69. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace;
70. Except those who repent and believe (in Islamic Monotheism), and do righteous deeds; for those, Allaah will change their sins into good deeds, and Allaah is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Furqaan 25:68-70]
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This clearly indicates that Allaah forgives all sins – even shirk – and it tells us of an immense bounty, which is that bad deeds are turned to good deeds.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
No sin is too great for Allaah to forgive for the one who repents, rather He forgives shirk and other sins for those who repent, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
[LEFT]“Say: O ‘Ibaadi (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allaah, verily, Allaah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Zumar 39:53] [/LEFT]
Al-Bukhaari and Muslim (6766) narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There was among the people who came before you a man who killed ninety-nine people. Then he asked about the most knowledgeable person on earth, and was directed to a hermit, so he went to him, told him that he had killed ninety-nine people, and asked if he could be forgiven. The hermit said, ‘No,’ so he killed him, thus completing one hundred. Then he asked about the most knowledgeable person on earth and was directed to a scholar. He told him that he had killed one hundred people, and asked whether he could be forgiven. The scholar said, ‘Yes, what could possibly come between you and repentance? Go to such-and-such a town, for in it there are people who worship Allaah. Go and worship with them, and do not go back to your own town, for it is a bad place.” So the man set off, but when he was halfway there, the angel of death came to him, and the angels of mercy and the angels of wrath began to argue over him. The angels of mercy said: ‘He had repented and was seeking Allaah.’ The angels of wrath said: ‘He never did any good thing.’ An angel in human form came to them, and they asked him to decide the matter. He said: ‘Measure the distance between the two lands (his home town and the town he was headed for), and whichever of the two he is closest to is the one to which he belongs.’ So they measured the distance, and found that he was closer to the town for which he had been headed, so the angels of mercy took him.”
Al-Tirmidhi (3540) narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Allaah, may He be blessed and exalted, said: ‘O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you and I would not mind.’” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
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