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In CA, i belive they allow a LL to charge for cleaning IF and ONLY IF the place is not returned in the same condition as it was accepted minus normal wear and tear. No matter how clean it is, any damagees can cause a dedcution!. So if the carpet was clean when you moved in, you need to return it in the same clean condition. If there are damages, cleaning isnt going to correct that so you are on the hook for the damages to the carpet. But if the carpet is cleaned by a professional and all you have is normal wear and tear but no damages, they can't charge you to reclean the carpet. However, if the lease specifically states that the carpet will be professionally clean and a dediuction of X dollars will be made from the deposit, by signing the lease, you both mutually agreed to that condition. That means the LL can charge the amount in the lease to professionally clean the carpet even if you already had it professionally cleaned. but its mutual which means they can only charge the amount in the lease for that professional cleaning and you are only obligated to return the carpet in undamaged condition but it doe not have to be professionally cleaned because they already agreed to do the cleaning.
There's no such statement in the lease. It only claims that "The entire Premises including range, filters, screens, refrigerator, bathroom, closets walls and carpets shall be cleaned professionally by a licensed, insured company, to manager's satisfaction, and such satisfaction, if expressed, shall be evidenced by a written cleaning-releasing of Renter"
Are "damages" viewed as water damages or cigarette burns? If you mean those, there is none. Only some stains at the entry left in rainy days.
The LL didn't give me any written cleaning requirement. Is there any trap in this paragraph?
"The entire Premises including range, filters, screens, refrigerator, bathroom, closets walls and carpets shall be cleaned professionally by a licensed, insured company, to manager's satisfaction, and such satisfaction, if expressed, shall be evidenced by a written cleaning-releasing of Renter"
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Originally Posted by Nezen
The LL didn't give me any written cleaning requirement.
What do you call this paragraph from the LL if not a (rather explicit) instruction?
You need to get someone familiar with CA law because I remeber reading that any clause where the sole descetion is based on the landlords opinion even if dsputed by a licnesed professional, is void. I would think the LL would have to show that their cleaning was necessary to return it to the condition you were given it (minus normal wear and tear). The law doesn;t say anything about the landlords opinion of clean, it says you must return it in an undamaged state, as clean as you received it, minus normal wear and tear. The only exception is if the lease calls for a predetermined cleaning fee which releases you from cleaning it to the condition you received it because the LL is has taken that responsibility by the set fee.
have you read the landlrid tenant laws? If not, you have some reading to do this weekend!
You need to get someone familiar with CA law because I remeber reading that any clause where the sole descetion is based on the landlords opinion even if dsputed by a licnesed professional, is void. I would think the LL would have to show that their cleaning was necessary to return it to the condition you were given it (minus normal wear and tear). The law doesn;t say anything about the landlords opinion of clean, it says you must return it in an undamaged state, as clean as you received it, minus normal wear and tear. The only exception is if the lease calls for a predetermined cleaning fee which releases you from cleaning it to the condition you received it because the LL is has taken that responsibility by the set fee.
have you read the landlrid tenant laws? If not, you have some reading to do this weekend!
Thanks for your advice. However "to manager's satisfaction" is vague and there seems no regulations to constrain LL's action. What should I do if he refuses to sign any file like the cleaning-release?
"To manager's satisfaction" is vague. He can argue that any cleaning doesn't meet his satisfaction.
Yeah, that's why it was pointed out along with the others as something to be wary of..
what you called a "trap".
Oh! You don't do irony. My bad.
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