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Old 05-13-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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OK, this is how the 50% spousal benefit works. Assume I am FRA and my ex is also FRA. I file for my Social Security benefit at 66. They look at both benefits, my full benefit and 1/2 my ex spouse's benefit and pay me the higher amount.
So let's say my ex husband's is $2,000 and mine is $900. 1/2 of his is $1,000, which is higher than my full so they will pay me his 50% benefit. Now let's say that his is $2,000 and mine is $1200. 1/2 of his is $1,000 which is less than my full, ($1200) so they will pay me on my own record and not 50% of his.

another option if you are both FRA you can CHOOSE to receive half of his and let yours grow, or he could do that on yours, but not both of you.

Also as to survivor benefit question. the spouse would recieve what the deceased spouse was getting MINUS a percentage based on the widow/ers age. If the widow/er is FRA then yes they would receive the full amount the deceased was receiving, including any extra credits, if any were earned.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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One more question: if my wife takes spousal benefits at 62, but I don't die until she reaches FRA, will her survivor benefits be reduced because she took spousal benefits early?
No, her survivor benefits will not be reduced if she has reached FRA.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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OK, this is how the 50% spousal benefit works. Assume I am FRA and my ex is also FRA. I file for my Social Security benefit at 66. They look at both benefits, my full benefit and 1/2 my ex spouse's benefit and pay me the higher amount.
So let's say my ex husband's is $2,000 and mine is $900. 1/2 of his is $1,000, which is higher than my full so they will pay me his 50% benefit. Now let's say that his is $2,000 and mine is $1200. 1/2 of his is $1,000 which is less than my full, ($1200) so they will pay me on my own record and not 50% of his.
Not if you file a restricted application at FRA. SSA will not even look at your earnings record if you are not applying for benefits on your own record.

Here's a nice example of this strategy, see page 14 at link (page 13 of pdf).

http://research.prudential.com/docum...ityNov2012.pdf
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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another option if you are both FRA you can CHOOSE to receive half of his and let yours grow, or he could do that on yours, but not both of you.
Again, this is not my understanding. There is a specific formula that must be calculated.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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ex spouses can each file for spousal benefits leaving their own to grow.

if you are married you do not have that option. only one of you can file for spousal while leaving your own to grow.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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ex spouses can each file for spousal benefits leaving their own to grow
Yes, but their benefit at FRA must be less than 1/2 the spouse's benefit at FRA.
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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not sure what you are referring to. spousal benefits do not have to be less than your own if you are not filing on your own record yet.

my wifes are a fraction of my own but at fra i will file for 1/2 hers regardless of the fact my own is more and leave mine to grow..

i am not following what you are saying.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:23 PM
 
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Have you contacted Social Security and ran the numbers with them?
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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not sure what you are referring to. spousal benefits do not have to be less than your own if you are not filing on your own record yet.

my wifes are a fraction of my own but at fra i will file for 1/2 hers regardless of the fact my own is more and leave mine to grow..

i am not following what you are saying.
I think it will only work the other way around. Your wife could take 50% of yours since 100% of hers is less than 1/2 of your full benefit.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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