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Old 07-14-2015, 02:40 AM
 
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no , but variable annuities typically follow along those lines. they give you guarantees which are only good towards annuitizing , you do not actually have use of that balance other than to draw off it.

immediate annuity's are different . they work like buying a cd. what you sign on for is what you get with no other fees or charges .
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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I looked at the literature for some more complex annuities and it made my head spin. It sure did look like they were trying to obsfucate things. So an immediate annuity is about the only thing I would consider.

It seems like it could be a great deflation hedge, though that's a whole nother discussion. Do they all have about the same payout ratios for a given age? I think the biggest risk is the stability of the company given the possibility of financial turmoil. How would you evaluate this?
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:48 AM
 
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go to immediate annuity .com
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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i would look in to no other type
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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I think the biggest risk is the stability of the company given the possibility of financial turmoil. How would you evaluate this?

Insurance company get rated, by 3 "Big" rating companies
A.M. Best , Moody’s, Standard & Poor’s are the big ones,

How to Assess the Financial Strength of an Insurance Company | III

Here is a list of the rating, you want to pick one that is Extremely Strong or Very Strong.

http://www.thebestlifeins.com/company-ratings/usa
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Old 07-16-2015, 02:09 AM
 
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most states back them fairly well as well as most states require healthy insurers to absorb non healthy ones.

so far through the worst financial calamity ever since the great depression 2008-2009 no insurer failed to honor their commitments.

anything that bad that it wipes out all insurers will certainly wipe out your own investing.

to be frank that is the smallest risk and to date i don't believe anyone ever lost a penny because an insurer failed.
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Old 07-20-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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I looked at immediateannuities.com and their quick estimate showed a product with a guaranteed 20 yr payout that was only $20/mo less than a mere lifetime benefit. That means your heirs get a payout for 20 yrs even if you get run over by a bus tomorrow. Sounds too good to be true. Your thoughts? I expect to buy when I am 60.
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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I looked at immediateannuities.com and their quick estimate showed a product with a guaranteed 20 yr payout that was only $20/mo less than a mere lifetime benefit. That means your heirs get a payout for 20 yrs even if you get run over by a bus tomorrow. Sounds too good to be true. Your thoughts? I expect to buy when I am 60.
They also have a single life with cash refund which grabbed my eye.
You die and your heirs get a refund of any unpaid premium.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:25 PM
 
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Once you start with the benefits for heirs you lose a lot of the cash flow advantage .

A more powerful alternative is to take a single annuity and use life insurance for a spouse or heirs. Not only can you get more money for less in most cases but the money is tax free unlike the annuity that passes.

The combo of an annuity ,your own investing and life insurance has many advantages.
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:43 PM
 
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I don't know which companies - haven't filled out the form to be contacted by an agent as I am not in the market yet.

The website I visited had an extra s - was that the one you recommended mathjack?
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