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Old 03-07-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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I sent away for and got the form that lists the dates that count for retirement. I have several blocks of several months where I deployed with the Guard that didn't count.

I have the instructions on how to calculate my retirement SCD subtracting the dates but I keep getting different numbers! This is sort of important, I need a date I can trust. Emailed my civ personnel office and they were confused, isn't it the date on your LES? So, someone out there is less informed than me, I didn't think it possible!

If I put out the dates anyone care to see what they come up with compared to others?



10/8/1975 9/7/1979
11/20/1988 2/26/1989
4/7/1989 9/14/1989
11/16/1989 3/13/1990
7/24/1990 6/2/2003
4/4/2003 8/15/2003
8/11/2003 1/24/2004
1/25/2004 present

2-5. Computing the Service
Computation Date-Leave.
a. General.
(1) Service Computation Date-Leave
calculations are based on a 360 day year,
that is, 12 months of 30 days each.
Calculations based on a 365 day year may
yield different results.
(2) Dates are added and subtracted in
day, month, year order. Borrowing is based
on the 360 day year, with 30 days equal to a
month, and 12 months equal to a year. The
example below shows how to subtract
December 23, 1994 from April 15, 1996.
Step 1: Subtract days. Since 23 is larger
than 15, borrow 1 month to add 30 days to
the 15. Even though March has 31 days, in
borrowing each month is treated as 30 days.
03 45
1996 04
15
- 1994 12 23
22
Step 2: Subtract months. Since 12 is
larger than 3, borrow 1 year to add 12
months to the 3
1995 15
03
45
1996
04
15
- 1994 12 23
03 22
Step 3: Subtract years.
1995 15
03
45
1996
04
15
- 1994 12 23
1 03 22
Result is 1 year, 3 months, 22 days.
(3) The net effect of the computations is to
add noncreditable time and subtract
creditable time from the initial appointment
date. Adding time increases the date and
decreases the number of years of service.
Subtracting time decreases the date and
increases the number of years of service.
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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When I retired, it was automatically figured for me by the retirement person, a lot easier and accurate almost to the penny. So, did you try that avenue, yet?
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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They don't figure it until you apply. I have to plan on when I'll be able to retire. What they give you is a SF 3107-1 with dates.
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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For those deployed times didn't you buy that back? If you did then you would not lose any of that. You should look into that.
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:39 AM
 
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I bought back my 4 years and some of the deployed times. Some of those times I went in LWOP status and I'm not sure I can buy it back. I may look into it.

Seeing as how I'm answering questions.......is anyone going to answer mine?
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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I bought back my 4 years and some of the deployed times. Some of those times I went in LWOP status and I'm not sure I can buy it back. I may look into it.

Seeing as how I'm answering questions.......is anyone going to answer mine?
I do not think there is a way to calculate to the day your retirement date but you have the formula pretty much covered yourself there. I doubt anyone has put as much effort into it. The one question you pose is there a formula out there or some program that can do that? Probably not. There was a program I downloaded off the internet that gave a rough figure. Have you looked at this http://www.fedcalc.com/servlet/com.quantos.fcgui.fers? Maybe that can help?
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The attached is what I come up with using that examples "math".
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FERS help calculating Retirement SCD-scd2_calcs.jpg   FERS help calculating Retirement SCD-scd2.jpg  

Last edited by CSRSJim; 03-07-2015 at 10:07 AM.. Reason: Added calculation attachment
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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http://www.fedcalc.com/servlet/com.q...fcgui.snapshot and this one.
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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If you read my post above you will see I already provide that information.
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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So Giesela, how do your calcs compare to mine?
Where are the differences?
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