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Old 10-05-2022, 03:11 PM
 
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That water is also going to be much dirtier than your normal ocean or lake water. If you ingest any of that, you might be looking at some significant health consequences.
Oh yeah, they mentioned people in some of those areas had septic systems and most likely bacteria in the flood water from them. We live on a lake and were required to get a mound type that isn't as far underground as a standard one, but existing systems are allowed to remain.
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Old 10-05-2022, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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The news doesn’t seem to have time to do in-depth coverage (heavy video coverage) so I have been watching you tube videos.

A lot of mobile homes were still standing but the rising water flooded them out. Hard to grasp the videos where they show the water levels in both houses and mobile homes 5’ and 6’ inside the houses. I can’t imagine the panick seeing the levels rise and realizing you should have left.
I remember a woman who chose to ride out one of the previous hurricanes--maybe Andrew--and she said to the reporter, "if there is a hurricane coming, don't stay. Just lock your door, and go."
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Old 10-05-2022, 03:26 PM
 
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Every state has armpit areas.

Is the housing market likely inflated? Sure, but many places are. I live in a small metro area in northeast TN that has had historically low housing prices and a depressed economy. There are now communities with median selling price over $500,000 in a metro area with a <$45,000 median HHI.

Bad healthcare? Here, I'm two hours from a major university medical system. It's not uncommon for patients to be referred to Duke in Raleigh, Vanderbilt in Nashville, or UVA-Charlottesville, all more than four hours away.

Retirees often get rose-colored glasses of the "popular" retirement states because of a lack of income tax or weather. The whole picture often isn't taken into account, but that's not anything specific to FL.
I have a nephew that was awarded a scholarship to Yale for his Masters. He got really sick and had to go to the ER and ended up needing surgery. Not sure what hospital

He was so concerned about the cost - but they told him - Don't worry - you're not in Texas anymore -
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Old 10-05-2022, 04:28 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well now here we got Ian but it was a Cat 1.

There was damage..but Cat 1 type of damage.
I stayed home the last few days while the city cleaned up the streets. Last time I ventured out after a hurricane passed I ended up at the automotive place getting my tire plugged from an errant nail.

I changed my Friday breakfast group to Thursday last week. And I actually got a "But why" asked of me. I just replied..hurricane.
And then at breakfast I asked if everyone was ready. Again I got a "But why".

The local news was full of being prepared. Our state has an emergency app for your phone that will go off.
NOAA has an app with audio notifications. Plus websites, etc.

As they say....you can lead a horse to water...
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Old 10-05-2022, 06:32 PM
 
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Well now here we got Ian but it was a Cat 1.

There was damage..but Cat 1 type of damage.
I stayed home the last few days while the city cleaned up the streets. Last time I ventured out after a hurricane passed I ended up at the automotive place getting my tire plugged from an errant nail.

I changed my Friday breakfast group to Thursday last week. And I actually got a "But why" asked of me. I just replied..hurricane.
And then at breakfast I asked if everyone was ready. Again I got a "But why".

The local news was full of being prepared. Our state has an emergency app for your phone that will go off.
NOAA has an app with audio notifications. Plus websites, etc.

As they say....you can lead a horse to water...
Yep it is weird how some folks just don't pay attention to the news
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Old 10-05-2022, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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I have my own experience with 100 mph hour winds and wildfires. Hundreds of spot fires were generated, long distances. It's terrifying. Stop spreading untruths. Just because you haven't experienced it personally doesn't mean it's not real.

https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Te...ST.TN.2135.pdf
Maybe you need to look at the report and not spread misinformation - nothing it it says anything about embers being blown 20 miles - your source does not really back your claims. The report talks mostly about the fire travelling along the ground, that is not close to the same thing. Also I am talking urban where many more are impacted than a rural area in the forests. Fires need fuel to travel and a forest fire is not the same as an urban environment.

The big fires I have dealt with are the 1991 Oakland fire - $1.5B, 1,520 acres with 3280 homes destroyed. The 2003 Cedar fire - $1.3B damage, 273,246 acres and 2820 buildings destroyed. And the 2007 Witch fire - $1.3B, 247,800 acres and 1265 homes burned. We were about 5 miles from the Oakland fire so not really much of an issue. The 2003 got to about a mile away, so close but we were in a voluntary evacuation area - got ready but stayed because we are not in a very high fire risk area according to the county maps. The 2007 fire was headed our way so we were under mandatory evacuation - got to about 1/4 mile away but ended up going past our area.

The experts do say that it is unrealistic to worry about embers much beyond about a mile away - while embers may blow farther, they rarely have enough heat after they travel to cause a new fire. From Colorado state fire experts "Most spot fires happen less than 1/2 mile away from the parent fire, but it is not uncommon for them to jump up to 1 mile away. Anything beyond 1 mile is very rare." From MSU firewise site - "Once airborne, these burning embers or firebrands can travel from one-quarter to one mile in the wind. If these embers land on a combustible source of fuel, new fires will be started."
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Old 10-05-2022, 07:10 PM
 
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How are you going to prove that all the damage to the walls, floors, electrical, furniture, appliances, etc was due to rain and not due to the 6 feet of water in your house? That's the conundrum that all homeowner
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Wont the insurance inspector know the difference ? if it is from the sky,it would ruin the fabric of sofa ?
Also you are not the only one who is covered,if all your neighbors have the same problem,it is easy to tell where the water comes from?
By the way,FEMA does not always cover flood damage if you use your basement as an office and your electronic devices and office furniture are flooded?
I just saw a couple who went back to Sanibel Island, found their home still standing albeit with some damage and obviously 1st floor flooding. It was a 2 story home and they said flood insurance there does not cover the first floor. If true, whats the point of having it.
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Old 10-05-2022, 07:29 PM
 
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I just saw a couple who went back to Sanibel Island, found their home still standing albeit with some damage and obviously 1st floor flooding. It was a 2 story home and they said flood insurance there does not cover the first floor. If true, whats the point of having it.
well would not the insurance company tell them that before they agreed to the policy??
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Old 10-05-2022, 07:42 PM
 
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well would not the insurance company tell them that before they agreed to the policy??
Presumably since they knew.

Just not understanding the point if it doesn't cover the floor that would flood. What else would there be to cover? Maybe I'm missing something.
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Old 10-05-2022, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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I just saw a couple who went back to Sanibel Island, found their home still standing albeit with some damage and obviously 1st floor flooding. It was a 2 story home and they said flood insurance there does not cover the first floor. If true, whats the point of having it.
Flood insurance is much less if you have 2 levels because less to get damaged. But I am guessing that the lower level in their house was not meant to be living space. Many homes near the beach are built on stilts and the area underneath is not permitted for living space even though many build it out. It also would likely be insured as an elevated house and not a 2 story. I am guessing that is the case here which is why it is not covered - technically it is not a legal area covered by the insurance they purchased.
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