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Old 01-06-2024, 07:13 AM
 
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I think people need to be careful not to qualify for fraudulent activities.
How is qualifying for HUD senior housing a fraudulent activity, Wile E. Coyote?

 
Old 01-06-2024, 07:18 AM
 
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it’s not by itself but it depends what is done with not showing income or assets in an illegal way if one resorts to it
 
Old 01-06-2024, 07:22 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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it’s not by itself but it depends what is done with not showing income or assets in an illegal way if one resorts to it
exactly!
 
Old 01-06-2024, 07:26 AM
 
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also deferred annuities are treated differently then annuities which are already being paid out as far as how they are counted

https://www.ajjcs.net/paper/main/201...rom-annuities/
 
Old 01-06-2024, 07:40 AM
 
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Are you talking about this? https://www.nyc.gov/assets/hpd/downl...rty-limits.pdf


If so, they do not count Retirement account assets; just the income that is thrown off from retirement accounts.

I'm guessing they want to guard against people selling their home and then signing up for heavily subsidized housing. That would be quite compelling actually.

I guess these programs are different by State.
What's to prevent people from selling their homes and using the proceeds from the sale to live it up for a few years and perhaps give some of the money to their kids before they sign up for subsidized housing and other benefits?
 
Old 01-06-2024, 07:42 AM
 
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What's to prevent people from selling their homes and using the proceeds from the sale to live it up for a few years and perhaps give some of the money to their kids before they sign up for subsidized housing and other benefits?
Federally subsidized housing has a two-year “look back” period; if people have given away assets, they must list them for eligibility purposes for two years for hud.

states have different look backs for state programs so you need to check with your state

here is an example of CT

Federally subsidized housing has a two-year “look back” period; if people have given away assets, they must list them for eligibility purposes for two years, according to Barbara Mullen at the Housing and Urban Development (HUD) office in Hartford. State elderly housing has no look back period, but people who give away assets while living there must continue to count the income from those assets for eligibility purposes for a period of time, according to Mike Santoro at the Department of Economic and Community Development (DECD).

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Old 01-06-2024, 05:51 PM
 
Location: PNW
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How is qualifying for HUD senior housing a fraudulent activity, Wile E. Coyote?
If you deliberately misrepresent your financial situation when applying for government benefits that have limitations based on your financial situation that is fraud. Someone was suggesting that you do that. That is very bad advice.
 
Old 01-06-2024, 06:14 PM
 
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Since we are talking about annuities in the other thread, it occurred to me: could you "decrease" your assets by turning them into annuities? You would have a higher monthly income when annuities are added, but lower assets - maybe you could find a point where you wouldn't get so much income in annuities that it would disqualify you from subsidized housing, yet you would decrease your assets below the limit where they start disqualifying you from subsidized housing? Probably not a good approach if you want to leave stuff to heirs, but could work if you need resources just for yourself.
Yes that's an idea. I believe you should check the lookback period
 
Old 01-06-2024, 06:15 PM
 
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I think people need to be careful not to qualify for fraudulent activities.
You didn't say illegal but "fraudulent activities" What are you referring to?
 
Old 01-06-2024, 06:24 PM
 
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If you deliberately misrepresent your financial situation when applying for government benefits that have limitations based on your financial situation that is fraud. Someone was suggesting that you do that. That is very bad advice.
Let's be civil and not misalign her character. YOU are the one who suggested criminal activity and linked it to her to malign her. Be nice
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